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Old 11-02-2008, 08:03 AM   #81
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I don't believe in sexuality.
*gets attacked by everyone*
Sexuality is fluid.
Just because you fancy men/women/horses now doesn't mean it's always gunna stay like that.
I'm not saying everyone changes but I don't think you can ever be certain.






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Old 11-02-2008, 02:18 PM   #82
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Good old nature nurture!

I think some people will be born gay right through to some people turning gay due to the life experiences they encounter. I have a friend who is a Male cheerleader thoroughly camp and so on - I can't believe that his 'campness' is purely down to the environment he grew up in but there must be some genetic forces there to.

I agree with the kinsey scale which states that everyone's sexuality falls on a continuum with some people being exclusively hetrosexual others being exclusively homosexual and everyone else falling in the middle. There are so many different variations to sexuality and whilst a little kid saying I am gay is unlikely said little kid is just as likely to go I am straight!

I mean when we are young gender means nothing to us as we get a little bit older we begin to hate the opposite sex - how often do little kids say boys are yucky and smell or girls are horrible and icky - this seems pretty universal and no one is telling us to act like this but we do. Then suddenly the opposite sex turn into creatures who we fancy and 'omg I am like talking to a boy *swoon*'! Has anyone seen the film Little Manhattan it sprung to mind as I typed it up.


Slightly side swiping now to 'transexuals' and so on but Money experimented as shown in the link and realiesed that gender is not easy to change. This followed on by researchers realising that there was a specific part of the brain in the hypothalmus (the SDN) that was twice the size in a males brain than in the female brain. Male Transexuals had the female SDN and thus nature played a critical role in it.

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This has been found when looking at gender so it isnt that far removed from there being a difference in the brains/genes of male and female gay or straight that hasnt been discovered yet.

Lastly I have known gay animals so how do the 'learn' to be gay?




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Old 11-02-2008, 02:44 PM   #83
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I don't think I was born gay. In secondary school I was never interested in boys or girls. All I cared about was music (still the same now, except I'm a big homo!)

For some, maybe they are "born" gay. Some aren't.
My mum was never like "why don't you have a boyfriend?" or anything. She actually keeps making (amusing) jokes about my sexuality. It's cool that she's fine with it.

I played football in primary school and my friends were both boys and girls. In high school, it was the same. Now? I have no idea to be honest.

I'm undecided. I don't know if you can be born gay. I like to think you're just born and certain things happen to mould you or whatever.
The more I think about it, the more my head hurts!

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Old 11-02-2008, 05:03 PM   #84
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i don't think people are born gay, or straight. or anything.
a part of me barely even believes the labels should be used at all.



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Old 12-02-2008, 02:12 AM   #85
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I don't believe in sexuality.
*gets attacked by everyone*
Sexuality is fluid.
Just because you fancy men/women/horses now doesn't mean it's always gunna stay like that.
I'm not saying everyone changes but I don't think you can ever be certain.

GOOD cus i think im turning a bit straight

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Old 12-02-2008, 05:00 PM   #86
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Little anecdote: i don't know how many of you know how the term 'gay' came about, i can't remember the full story, but it stands for:
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Old 12-02-2008, 07:24 PM   #87
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^ cool! except we're better.... kidding.

I'm starting to think that sexual orientation isn't what we think it is. It's probably more complicated than we can fathom. This is sort of tied to my belief in a gender spectrum rather than the binary male-female that is the most accepted social gender construct.

Put it this way...my sex is female...and I sex females...and don't wish to do anything else, but I don't like being called a lesbian because it implies strictly female-female relationships. I'm pretty sure I don't have a gender. So, I like gay. Since, gender wise, I'm possibly not female, and I also have liked transgendered boys, well, one. And I was friends with him way before he started transitioning and liked him as a female. I've never, however, liked a biological boy.
Does that make sense to anyone but me?
I think sexual orientation is tied to way too many things to be determined to be nature or nurture.

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Old 13-02-2008, 12:10 AM   #88
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^^ i think im the same as you.

no gender means no real sexual orientation.

cos if i feel like a girl, im gay.. but if i feel like a boy then im straight.

probably not what you were saying at all.

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Old 13-02-2008, 11:20 AM   #89
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^^^ I get what you mean.
I've never really thought about this before, i might give it some thought before i post my opinion :)
It's been really interesting to read the posts on here.



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Old 13-02-2008, 04:24 PM   #90
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I'm bi (leaning toward gay) but all my friends, whether straight, gay, or bi can appreciate beauty in the same sex and opposite sex, it's just if you want to act on those feelings.

And the rest of my family are kinda homophobic, so in my case maybe nature?



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Old 13-02-2008, 08:16 PM   #91
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i think that perhaps everybody is born either gay or straight etc but it may take a while for that person to realise their true orientation. when i feel for my fiance i never thought about being gay or anything, i just knew i loved her and gradually over time i realised i was gay, if that makes any sense?

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Old 22-02-2008, 05:56 PM   #92
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I agree with the kinsey scale which states that everyone's sexuality falls on a continuum with some people being exclusively hetrosexual others being exclusively homosexual and everyone else falling in the middle.
That makes sense to me. I believe that sexuality is fluid though. In terms of the scale, many people never stay at one part of the scale, they change as they go through life.
I have no idea about my sexuality. I have a boyfriend (and no ex's) but I wouldn't rule out a girlfriend in the future. I don't think I could ever label my sexuality, it just doesn't feel right. It's kinda binding you to one orientation, especially if you have had to "come out" as it were. Gender isn't the most important factor in a relationship for me.

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Old 22-02-2008, 05:58 PM   #93
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It doesn't matter weather you're bi or gay or straight. All that matters is who you fall in love with weather it be a man or woman. And I guess I've happened to fall for a woman.



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Old 23-02-2008, 03:40 PM   #94
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I think it's most likely you fall for someone no matter what their gender, unless you're too scared of the idea of gay-ness to let yourself, or realize that you like or could like someone of the same gender.



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