Surely they'll make her stay if it's a really dangerous OD?
^ This.
I wouldn't worry if she needs treatment and tries to leave they'll section her, so try not to worry about that, the professionals know what they're doing ( sometimes :p)
I'm glad your friend is at the hospital. It sounds very worrying and stressful but the staff will do all they can to make sure she gets the treatment she needs.
xx
Let us go then you and I, when the evening is spread out against the sky, like a patient etherized upon a table
- T.S. Elliot
Nope. Things have changed in my area. They no longer section people if they are judged as having capacity, essentially meaning if they know that what they are doing and they know it can kill them they are judged as being capable of making a decision and therefore not sectionable. So far though, she's agreed to stay. I think the only other option if she does leave is getting the police to 136 her but not sure if they would do that. I don't know what police make of the capacity thing.
That's really weird. I've known people with depression who were sectioned after attempting suicide. It sounds very odd that they would allow someone to just walk off without life saving treatment. If nothing else, they would be in a lot of trouble if said person died. I'd have thought they'd cover their own backs by sectioning, rather than risk being sued.
Yeah you would think. But they just aren't taking responsibility for people in that way anymore. In my area I think 136's were overused and a lot of money went into sending the police out when they left AMA but I don't think they can afford to do that anymore.
That's disgusting! If she is at serious risk of dying and is refusing treatment, she's clearly not in the right state of mind. They have a duty of care towards her. She needs real help.
How are you feeling now Katie?
Let us go then you and I, when the evening is spread out against the sky, like a patient etherized upon a table
- T.S. Elliot
I had some dinner and I'm trying to chill. I'm meant to be going to bf's tonight, I was meant to go last night but I was passed out. But my skin is really bad and I really can't keep going looking after everyone like this much longer. I just end up hitting the floor and being no use to anyone. I feel very fragile and stressed. Sorry to moan. I just don't want to pass out or end up shing.
I thinks it good you recognise you need to take some time for yourself.
You can't support others if you run yourself into the ground.
What things can you put in place to look after you right now?
Let us go then you and I, when the evening is spread out against the sky, like a patient etherized upon a table
- T.S. Elliot
I'm not sure. Tbh looking after myself before others is a bit of a new concept to me. I think just not running around after people, making sure I've eaten an drunk and rested as much as possible?
I've got this swollen part of my arm that's really sore and red and hot to touch. Staff just had a look at it and said it needs attention in case it's an infection. So I called 111 and I'm going to an out of hours gp at 9pm. I hope it turns out to be nothing. I really don't need this shit.
Nope. Things have changed in my area. They no longer section people if they are judged as having capacity, essentially meaning if they know that what they are doing and they know it can kill them they are judged as being capable of making a decision and therefore not sectionable. So far though, she's agreed to stay. I think the only other option if she does leave is getting the police to 136 her but not sure if they would do that. I don't know what police make of the capacity thing.
Isn't this a good thing? I mean in general and not necessarily relating to your friend.
A. How is this helpful to Katie?
B. If you all want to start a debate about it, please do so in the proper section, not in somebody's support thread.
I didn't debate - clearly. I stated it was a big debate but did not start to go into the depths of it.
People are able to say "that's disgusting" and I'm able to say "not always - although, I don't know the detail of your friends situation (so it may not be correct for her".
I hope this individuals get the treatment that she wants.
A. How is this helpful to Katie?
B. If you all want to start a debate about it, please do so in the proper section, not in somebody's support thread.
I'm very sorry about your friend Katie, and I hope she is all right. Hope the GP looks at your arm and it's nothing major.
I know it's very hard to get used to taking proper care of yourself. If you are struggling with it could you maybe think about what you would say to a friend or someone you care about if they were in your position? I know it's hard to take your own advice at times, and it can feel a bit hypocritical, but it's just going to take some getting used to.
Hope you're ok. Lots of love. <3
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It's not helpful to Katie, and I think it should be a new thread in the debate section.
I stick by what I said though, and I feel others would agree.
Thank you both <3 I don't really want to get into that debate here.
Things aren't going very well with the friend. She's now completely allergic to parvolex (the treatment they give for this type of overdose) so they can no longer give it to her. Which means she's seriously at risk of liver damage/liver failure.
The out of hours GP gave me two types of anti biotics which I'm going to pick up today. He didn't really explain anything just had a look and said I needed anti biotics.
I feel more human and less exhausted today. Which is nice. Worried about my friend obviously but not much I can do.
Well sh*t, is there no other antidote?
She's in the best hands, and it's good that you realise that there is nothing you can do so you don't feel so responsible.
No. I think I've heard of another one but it doesn't really work very well. Besides she went into hospital after taking the overdose 24 hours later which will increase the risk of liver damage. It's slightly terrifying.
In slightly brighter news, my friend from Newcastle is coming down today so we're going to go shopping and have tea!!
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