boston bombings

[Phoenix Of Destiny]

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Originally Posted by FabulousMike

This makes me so, so sad! We all have to look after each other! Nevermind if you're black, white, big, thin etc, from Afghanistan, USA, China etc...We are all one person.

(Socialist coming out).

no we don't since everytime we help another country we either go farther in debt or the next month they'll crap on us or by helping them we'll piss off another country...

[ferretmonster]

A lot of people on ryl aren't American but still care about what happened in Boston. Doesn't have to do with world politics, its just compassion

[Buttons.]

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Originally Posted by ferretmonster

A lot of people on ryl aren't American but still care about what happened in Boston. Doesn't have to do with world politics, its just compassion

QFT

And also I think it is incredibly ignorant to just say 'immigrants are the problem' no they're not, no matter what race, religion, gender etc you are always going to get extremists and people who do wrong, but judging everyone by those extremists is of no good to anybody. In fact in a lot of countries, USA and Britain included, immigrants do one heck of a lot of good.

I believe in a diverse society. Yes there may be cultural differences or debates or whatever but I think that the majority who live peacefully alongside others should within reason be able to practice whatever religion they want, dress how they want, act how they want so long as it isn't harming anyone else, and I don't think that some extremists/idiots/sadists of the same race/religion/orientation/whatever should make people condemn an entire group. Every group has people who are less than desirable. Doesn't mean you to have to condemn the lot.

If we were going with that (in my opinion) daft logic we would look at the American shooters who killed many innocent people and go 'oh well if we got rid of the Americans we'd all be fine, they're just more likely to do that sort of thing' which is RIDICULOUS but so is saying oh yes well this immigrant did this so we'd be better off without all of them as they are predisposed to drop bombs.

Hope I don't offend anyone just wanted to give my opinion.

[Isoverity]

I've seen people who are strenuous about diversity at home yet would never dare push it abroad. Is China too Chinese? Is Liberia too black? Is Saudi Arabia to Arabic? They would be according to PC diversity doctrines. I for one like people from other parts of the world and from other cultures but that doesn't mean the home culture always has to make it self secondary to the foreign cultures which is how PC diversity swings in the West. Its a one way street with all kinds of drawbacks.

People abroad like to crticize US for having largest prison population but 1/3 of the criminal are illegal immigrants that other countries were happy to send and America was foolish enough to take. Cuba once let people leave the Island in mass boat exodus and it was full of all the troubling people. As far as Muslims go I've lived with them and known many. A Muslim from Sierra Leone is not liable to be the same as one from Afghanistan. The ones from the cultures with a tribal/clan vibe and who take offense at all kids of things can be a problem. Insulting Islam under their laws can be worse than murder and call for death. Just leaving Islam can be a reason for death. Boston aside there about 14 places around the world where Islam is being used as reason for violence. That includes the genocide in Darfur.

As for US - historically there is long tradition of isolationism. Founders always cautioned about "foreign involvements" and people took it seriously. The world wars forced that to change and the Cold War entrenched it. Now a lot of people see things as out of hand. The "nation building" thing is dumb. Islam teaches all laws not from religious teaching is bad. The idea of "democracy" is pretty insulting to many. Even Turkey is backing away from secular ways. The whole Mid East is tipping back to the more fundamental elements of Islam - which are also the most extreme. The hardcore folks are actually doing the religion as it was laid out and interpreted. That's why the higher up in the religious hierarchy you go the more fundamental they are. I'll never forget Bush appointed a "moderate" guy to "bridge the divide" and a year latter he cut his wife's head off.