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Old 29-09-2012, 11:13 AM   #21
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Old 29-09-2012, 09:37 PM   #22
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Definitely believe in ghosts - have seen and experienced ghostly stuff; nothing evil, just a bit freaky!
Do you have a wireless doorbell though? If you do it can ring if someone rings the bell of a neighbour on the same frequency - mine goes all the time since next door got a new bell!

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Old 29-09-2012, 11:34 PM   #23
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I believe in ghosts.. When i was 11, i was going to bristol children hospital for a big operation and i was visited by my dead nan, i saw her and i told my parents and they got a medium out and she said apparently she was there to let me know i be ok after my operation and that i shouldn't worry about it.. She went away after i had my op.. :)

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Old 29-09-2012, 11:49 PM   #24
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I personally believe in ghosts, but as far as I am aware, never had any encounters with them.




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Old 02-10-2012, 01:19 PM   #25
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I'd say I'm open-minded but sceptical. I believe there are things that science is not sufficiently advanced enough to understand yet, both within the human brain and within the areas of energy and matter. I think as science advances some of these things will be easily explained.



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Old 02-10-2012, 02:38 PM   #26
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I believe in ghost. I have lived in many houses that have ghosts in them. Most people dont but then I ask where do u go after u die if u dont go to heaven or hell then they shut up. So to me ghosts are real. It just to u to diside if that r.



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Old 02-10-2012, 03:37 PM   #27
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I am open-minded to these things as this world is so intricate and amazing (even when it's crap it's amazing how it all got here) and there is so much we clearly don't know.
However, I have been watching lots of Derren Brown stuff this week and it's made me really think about how much we can trick our own minds.
For example, many people experience something called sleep paralysis. Everyone is paralysed by certain natural chemicals while they are in REM (dream) sleep, to stop them getting up and acting out their dreams. But some people get a weird semi-sleep state, where they can see the room they are in but also dream things in it, and are paralysed. I used to get this myself, feeling 'awake' but unable to move and convinced someone was in my room. When I awoke properly I was still in my locked bedroom with the window closed.

I recently thought I had a ghost in my flat, long story short, we had basically build up a silly back story about the previous occupant murdering his wife and doing a runner. This came about by some odd things including someone coming to the door looking for the guy (who owed him money), and on another occasion the police mentioning they'd been in my flat before because of a death. We made it worse by finding a creepy passport photo the night there was a power cut. But everyone's passport photo looks creepy, and we were in a suggestible state cos of the candlelight!

I set a 'test' for the ghost that involved asking a question and leaving a pen to point out the answer written on bits of paper. The pen moved to an answer while no-one was in the room (apparently).
A friend who is interested in this kind of thing offered to do an 'exorcism' but mentioned it was most likely we had created the symptoms of a haunting by our own belief - ie. either myself of my bf had moved that pen and couldn't remember doing so. (We hadn't walked back into the room together as had been taking turns in the bath).
This friend later went on to tell me he would have done what appeared to be an 'exorcism' and made things bang and crash etc and convinced us the spirit was leaving so we wouldn't have these mind-tricks anymore.

I think perhaps ghosts could exist, but not as departed souls exactly. I think maybe there isn't really such a thing as 'time' and that everything is actually all one moment. So ghosts are bit where for some reason the human brain doesn't have it's usual filters and the person sees something that is happening in a different time. If that makes any sense!



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Old 02-10-2012, 04:03 PM   #28
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Most people dont but then I ask where do u go after u die if u dont go to heaven or hell then they shut up.
You don't have to go anywhere. Not everyone believes in Heaven and Hell, or in the concepts of them. For a lot of people they (their body, mind, everything that makes them 'them') simply cease to function anymore and their bodies will either be buried or cremated, donated to science, or be cryogenically frozen if they're being fancy.

Also, as a friendly aside. This forum does not really accept text speak because it is really hard to read and to understand. Some people suffer from dyslexia (or other difficulties), and not everyone has English as their first language, which makes it harder for them to know what you're saying.


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Old 02-10-2012, 04:50 PM   #29
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First of all thank you ^, I hate text speak

To the point at hand, I believe highly in spirits and supernatural things, as referred to my thread I started during the full moon, that pretty much everyone missed the point of. But I've had paranormal things happen to me my whole life.

I used to hear voices calling my name from underneath my bed, things disappearing, some which never reappeared, a few times I have been saved by something that I couldnt see, or by extreme luck, like the time when I was about 11 or 12, and nearly got knocked off a trampoline, headed down head first, somehow managed to catch my legs on the side railing.

Also, I have been to a few haunted places, like a lighthouse in Florida, I heard a skittering across the floor, like a rock being tossed across the floor, I had a flashlight on me, I looked around and no rocks, nothing to have made the noise, I was the only one in the room, I have also seen shadows during the day moving across surfaces, and a few times with my close friends we have stayed up a little late, no later than normal and have noticed on our 8 acres of land several areas that were not touched my light (we have a signal tower near my house for trains, it flashes light)

The more you believe in something or want to believe in something the more real it seems/becomes however, it's possible it could all be in my head, I like to think I have guardians, when I see a red and blue glowing eye staring at me from a tree and get a chill down my spine I don't know what other explanation there could be. Ultimately it is each individual persons choice to believe or not.



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Old 02-10-2012, 04:52 PM   #30
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Oh yes I also forgot to mention, I only heard voices under my bed in one room, when I moved, mmy sister had taken over the house, when she moved my niece in there she would wake up every night screaming and crying, as soon as they moved her out of the room, she stopped



Take me away, I just want out from this self-imprisoned self-made Hell. Don't be surprsed, this is your mind coming to life by self-sacrifice. This tragedy of death will walk hand in hand with every thought of regret. Blame yourself for what you've become. The mind is a powerful thing set to self-destruct.
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Old 02-10-2012, 05:42 PM   #31
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I'm normally quite open to discussion/persuasion about most of my views, however I don't know why but this is something I won't even consider. To me it's just a fact that ghosts don't exist, and whilst I think it's foolish to be quite so adament I can't shake off the instinct that it's just a fact. Like, I'd be more inclined to believe that Australia is a myth created by the media than I would that ghosts exist.



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Old 02-10-2012, 06:24 PM   #32
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I believe that places can absorb feelings from events, and that these can be interpreted by the receiving mind in various ways. Places where a lot of trauma, violence, etc can retain the 'memory' of that - I believe. As well as places that have been the site for lots of prayer/positive intent - I've experienced this in a pantheistic temple.
But then I do have very sensitive sensitivities!

A library where I used to work, and which is now closed due to budget cuts, reputedly had a ghost, and a colleague was adamant about this, and really hammed it up, as it were. Various others had also seen it. Not me. I did hear something weird once when there, but I think it was an echo or something from the flats next door. Maybe.

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Old 02-10-2012, 08:27 PM   #33
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Hmm, lots of food for thought!

I used to work in a hotel that was supposedly haunted and loads of weird stuff did happen, but I do think I convinced myself to be scared.

In other news, our house is still full of weird occurences, so I'm just not sure what to believe.

Also, Jenna, I nearly spilt my Fruit corner over my laptop when I read your Australia comment... I think I need a break from studying!





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Old 02-10-2012, 11:58 PM   #34
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No, I don't believe in ghosts - but I'm clear as to the susceptibilty of the human mind to believe in them.

I well remember years ago spending a couple of nights on a remote uninhabited island in the Hebrides. Friends and I camped there in a long-deserted schoolhouse with no problems. But on another later occasion I spent a couple of nights in the same schoolhouse with two of the local fishermen who had taken us out there. After a couple of nights of their stories about the weird and wonderful goings on in the Islands I found myself looking over my shoulder hard when I went outside into the night for a pee!

It's all in the mind, and the more fertile your imagination the more you're likely to be convinced of ghostly activity. That said, I was once brought up short for a moment by an account by Gavin Maxwell (author of Ring of Bright Water, about the otters) where in one of his books he describes things flying off shelves in the house he wrote about. But then I remembered that, although highly intelligent, he was a very highly strung individual and was thus more liable to be vulnerable to his imagination. So, we can all be convinced about ghosts - given outside pressures - but I don't believe they really do exist.

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Old 03-10-2012, 12:53 AM   #35
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Ive never experienced anything myself but I'm open minded and who knows what goes on? Anyway, I'm reading a series at the moment called The Mediator series, it's about a girl who can see and talk to ghosts and helps them move on. It's an awesome series and f anyone is interested it's by Meg Cabot. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mediator-Col...9222003&sr=1-1

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Old 03-10-2012, 01:10 PM   #36
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I say no to all life after death things like ghosts and gods and heavens and hells. But I admit we don't know.

Also, I had a near death experience that, while I can rationalize the things I saw/felt, still gives me the shivers when I consider it.




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Old 03-10-2012, 08:26 PM   #37
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I've seen a ghost before... rather not go into deets.

My goal is to do an ouija board where more than one person has been killed.

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Old 04-10-2012, 01:05 PM   #38
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I believe in Ghosts. I believe I've seen a ghost before in a park when there is typically supposed to be a 'white lady' but, It was near a lake at night, changing temp so could be explained as mist. I still think it was a ghost though, because it was definietly lady shaped/detailed.

I also believe that sometimes my nan visits me. I can sometimes feel her/ sense her holding my hand/stroking my hair/hugging. I again know this can be explained as 'crazy' and 'imagination' because maybe thats what I want to believe as a comfort to my grieve and bereavement.

I think it is completely plausible that ghosts exist and paranormal (although I don't believe in Aliens- which is the thing that is a lot more likely apparently) but it isn't something that freaks me out and I've never had anything 'horrible' or 'scary' happen.

We also apparently have a ghost where I work (in a hotel) weird things do happen like doors opening/closing where no-one is around and the lift moves alot 'on it's own' but again it's not something that bothers me.



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Old 05-10-2012, 01:13 AM   #39
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I don't believe in ghosts. I've never experienced anything paranormal, and I believe that most ghost sighting stories can be explained by expectation, imagination and visual illusions or not seeing something clearly.

I am, however, open to the idea of the existence of things arounds us that we cannot sense purely because of the nature of our limited senses. Stuff like children being able to hear more high-pitched sounds than can adults, and animals seeing and hearing things in other wavelengths leads me onto the thought that it's plausible that there may be things that have not yet been scientifically identified/detected but that are around us. I can't remember how that was supposed to be related to ghosts though. :S

I do enjoy scary stories though :)

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Old 07-10-2012, 05:11 PM   #40
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See, I find it virtually impossible to rationalise ghosts and spirits etc, but there's still that element of me that goes "it's possible". Especially when freaky things keep happening in (and outside) my house!
This basically. But also the above comment. I think that most paranormal experiences can be attributed to really obvious things, but perhaps the less obviously explained ones are something, not spiritual, but not yet discovered.

When I was a kid I thought I saw a ghost. My friend was sleeping over and she went to the loo. I turned round and saw a figure that I thought was her but then I realised it was a boy dressed in old fashioned clothing. Then my friend opened the door and returned from the loo. This might be enough to convince some people but looking back on it there was probably something vaguely human shaped like a shadow or a coat which my imagination exaggerated. Especially when no one has ever died in my house or as far as I know on the grounds it's built on- the current house has only had one other occupier who moved out alive and well, and while the previous (1930s) house was flattened during WWII no one died. Before that house I'm pretty sure it was just farmland. So even if ghosts existed there would be no sensible reason for a 18th Century boy to turn up in my bedroom.






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