Honestly i dont feel i am at fault just because i disagree with you and you don't agree with me, therefore why should i apologise when i have done nothing wrong? I feel this is why you are not getting any apologies.
And you cant say sorry and demand to receive it back at the same time, i cannot remember over a year ago and many other people wont either.
"Its not how long a star shines, what is remembered is the brightness of the light"
Maybe they don't think they've done anything wrong. At the end of the day, it is often subjective, and opinion, and different parties may have different views of the situation. I don't know what happened before, but I think that this thread is becoming very personal and attacking lots of members of this site.
It sounds like you have made this thread to elicit apologies from the people you feel wronged you before. Ie. "I'm sorry, but you should be too." I've got to be honest; I do agree with pretty much everything Jenna has said here.
I know that you are upset; what would help right now? This site is filled with people who want to help if you want help. If you have personal grievances against particular members of this site, it would be much better to contact the moderators than to air them here.
As I mentioned earlier, you may want to close or lock your thread, to stop this argument continuing. Take care.
It doesn't matter where you come from; it matters where you go.
No-one gets remembered for the things they didn't do.
We won't all be here this time next year,
so while you can take a picture of us.
We're definitely going to hell,
but we'll have all the best stories to tell.
Also, personally, it would be incredibly rude of me to apologise to you in this instance. My main part in your previous thread was telling you that I don't think someone not talking to you in ASDA is worthy of Serious Discussions and Advice, and my standpoint on that has not changed, and I also do not regret telling you that, multiple times on your thread.
Whether I am right or wrong in my stance on that, it would indeed be morally wrong of me to apologise to you, because I am not sorry.
Have you ever apologised at all for being in the wrong at all,ever??.
I have plenty of times in my life did the right and decent thing whether on the spot or over a period of refection APOLOGISED for me being in the wrong,so many times infact i cant count the amount..
I have apologised for my part as i said in the mess and i am very honest and sincere with it.
Op most of your threads are going back a year, i hate to be honest and say no one gives a crap anymore as they don't remember and anyone who was "out of order" on your threads would have been dealt with by the mods back then when it happened.
"Its not how long a star shines, what is remembered is the brightness of the light"
Have you ever apologised at all for being in the wrong at all,ever??.
I don't know why this is relevant, but yes, plenty of times! I'm a fairly shitty person and so often land myself doing things I regret and needing/wanting to apologise. But I do pride myself on sincere apologies, so you won't find me just saying sorry for the hell of it or to try to make someone stop being mad at me. If I'm not sorry I won't say it, When I apologise it's because I think I've done something wrong, and I explain exactly what I'm sorry for, explain why I ended up doing the bad thing, and hope the other person forgives me. I don't go on to demand they apologise for random grievances I have with mthe though.
I don't know why this is relevant, but yes, plenty of times! I'm a fairly shitty person and so often land myself doing things I regret and needing/wanting to apologise. But I do pride myself on sincere apologies, so you won't find me just saying sorry for the hell of it or to try to make someone stop being mad at me. If I'm not sorry I won't say it, When I apologise it's because I think I've done something wrong, and I explain exactly what I'm sorry for, explain why I ended up doing the bad thing, and hope the other person forgives me. I don't go on to demand they apologise for random grievances I have with mthe though.
I hope this answers your question.
I said before. i am NOT DEMANDING ANYONE APOLOGISE, I just pointed out some people have not.
I am truly sincerely sorry for MY PART in the whole mess and have said so.
Good for you.
And I have pointed out why I have not apologised.
And I imagine it's similar reasons to mine, as well as the fact that it was a year ago so no one remembers, that you have received no apologies.
I do not know why you feel as though you need to apologise so cannot really give an involved comment on this and can people also please bear in mind my comment will therefore be general and not specific to anything/one.
All I was thinking whilst reading through this thread is that individual apologies to those you offended may be a better idea and feel more personal to them.
It sounds as though you feel as though some people should apologise to you as well for their part in the situation and this is something you would have liked to have seen but to be honest a lot of the people involved may not have seen this thread or be active any more (as bigmike said) so contacting them individually may be a better solution for you. Also although you may feel wronged they may (as Narcissa established) not feel as though they were in the wrong and therefore do not think that they owe you an apology (which at the end of the day is perfectly fair and their decision)
Additionally if you feel that:
1) certain people owe you apologies
and
2) decent people apologise
then this implies that:
3) if those people you feel owe you apologies don't apologise then they are not 'decent people' according to your standards - so why bother?
On a lighter note... I have just written the word apologise so many times that in my head it is no longer sounding like a real word :P
xxx
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Some Things There Are No Words For, Only Shoulders To Lean On. Hands To Hold On To. And Hugs To Comfort You, As Best They Can.
Buttons - you make me proud.
MeaCulpa - It will never be your fault.
Everyone - Whatever you need to hear.
On your support thread for example people have listened and taken into consideration what you have said and your situation and made a valid opinion based on what you have said. However you seem to ignore what most people say and continue with the idea that we are completely wrong in our judgments and you are completely right, which makes it pointless asking for opinions to begin with.
So in answer to your question, yes people have.
"Its not how long a star shines, what is remembered is the brightness of the light"
let's all pull together and support each other on here.
Really, I think that this should be the end of the conversation, for everyone, not just the OP. It is helping no-one, and in the nicest possible way If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all. The best way to resolve this is to allow this thread to die, and to not keep arguing here.
OP, I hope you find the support you are looking for.
It doesn't matter where you come from; it matters where you go.
No-one gets remembered for the things they didn't do.
We won't all be here this time next year,
so while you can take a picture of us.
We're definitely going to hell,
but we'll have all the best stories to tell.
I don't think it's the fact that your opinions haven't been considered, people just don't necessarily agree with you - and that's ok, people won't always agree about everything. Try to accept this and agree to disagree, because if this thread continues like this it will probably get locked anyway.
You also need to accept that there is no point in repeating the same points, people will have seen them the first time and taken them into account.
I understand that you hold the ability to apologise in great prestige but not everyone feels the same about everything.
Additionally remember that whatever happened it was a long time ago, there is no point in an argument starting over what was originally meant as an apology for (what I assume) was a previous argument.
xxx
Some Things There Are No Words For, Only Shoulders To Lean On. Hands To Hold On To. And Hugs To Comfort You, As Best They Can.
Buttons - you make me proud.
MeaCulpa - It will never be your fault.
Everyone - Whatever you need to hear.
