The money from taxation of said drugs would bring in quite a high income, plus with the increase in tourism from legalisation (Think about how many people go to holland for weed)
My understanding is that it is only Amsterdam (not the country as a whole), and that you can only consume it in specially licenced places, so it's not like you can go down the street smoking it.
I'd really question whether the UK would want to be known as a tourist haven of drugs legality. Is that really the image we would want to put out there?
The legalisation of drugs and the increased tax income still doesn't explain how it manages to break the cycle of criminality associated with drug addiction. People are still going to need money to buy it.
when drugs are sold on the streets the dealers set the prices. they could charge outrageous amounts, forcing the addicts into crime.
Legal drugs might still be expensive, but surely their prices would be a lot more reasonable. So with prices low addicts wouldn't have to struggle to raise the price they need.
Maybe it wouldn't stop crime, but it would probably cut it down.
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The legalisation of drugs and the increased tax income still doesn't explain how it manages to break the cycle of criminality associated with drug addiction. People are still going to need money to buy it.
Drugs from legal sources would deprive gangs of their funding. The type of funding that allows gangs like the Zetas to buy a bunch semi-automatic weapons.
when drugs are sold on the streets the dealers set the prices. they could charge outrageous amounts, forcing the addicts into crime.
Legal drugs might still be expensive, but surely their prices would be a lot more reasonable. So with prices low addicts wouldn't have to struggle to raise the price they need.
Maybe it wouldn't stop crime, but it would probably cut it down.
The dealers still have to work within market forces, and so in a weird way having it illegal creates its own economy in order to control prices and quality. Because of the dangers of drugs (and the dangers that legalising it entails), the government would need to set the price quite high, and it wouldn't get rid of the black market. It certainly hasn't for cigarettes.
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Drugs from legal sources would deprive gangs of their funding. The type of funding that allows gangs like the Zetas to buy a bunch semi-automatic weapons.
That's not the type of criminality that I'm referring to. I'm talking about the lower-level crime, like the junkie who has to rob someone to pay for their next fix. I'd be willing to bet that that sort of crime effects more normal people than the higher chain organised crime.
That's not the type of criminality that I'm referring to. I'm talking about the lower-level crime, like the junkie who has to rob someone to pay for their next fix. I'd be willing to bet that that sort of crime effects more normal people than the higher chain organised crime.
It depends on where you live. Here where I live, a junkie is probably a bigger worry. If I lived along Mexico's northern border I would have been too scared to even post what I posted. It's hard to do a comparison of the number effected when people are living in sheer terror.
I agree with Tyrannicide. Also, if legal, the government would have control over the purity of the drugs being sold. You hear of weed being laced with lead to increase its weight, which obviously can cause serious problems.
Having said that, I still think there would be cheaper alternatives offered on the black market that heavy users would turn to, which would not help the gang problem etc.
Mind enhancing drugs should not be legalized, & those who deal in such crap should be dealt with more harshly.
Government should not tolerate or keep lowering boundary's such as de-catergorizing canabis from being class C or B drug or whatever.
Best things in life are free to those who are'nt greedy & dont abuse the system, turning to drugs does'nt solve any problems, just makes everything worse.
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Mind enhancing drugs should not be legalized, & those who deal in such crap should be dealt with more harshly.
Government should not tolerate or keep lowering boundary's such as de-catergorizing canabis from being class C or B drug or whatever.
Best things in life are free to those who are'nt greedy & dont abuse the system, turning to drugs does'nt solve any problems, just makes everything worse.
Nobody is saying that drugs are great or anything like that. It's just that trying to stop drugs is such a foolhardy endevour. The cartels that control the drug trade are very powerful, and it would take a military effort to get rid of them.
If you tried to fix many of the situations that lead people to drugs, then you would solve many more problems than you would by trying to stop the flow of drugs.
People already do drugs, it being illegal hasnt stopped them.
Government should raise the penaltly to be deterant, My late grandmothers 90 year old next door neighbour was repeatedly burgled by a drug addict, lucky for my grandmother she went into care home when she did, otherwise the b**tard would've targeted her too !.
There should be no excuses, country is in a bad enough state as it is without legalizing drugs, legalizing drugs will open floodgates to more problems with some of this young generation , & the dealers will be forced ply their trade in exploiting & dealing something even more sinister. A boundary must be drawn & stuck too.
Dealers should be locked away for a long long time...,- prisons are full ? ,, well, I'm not suprised, as to hardened criminals prison is just a way of life spending time. - Longer sentences, more prisons & zero tolerance is needed.
Bring the millitary in to help bring down & convict the drug barons if need be.
People who have turned to drugs for whatever reason should be given support to be free from habit, but only if they deserve it, that sounds harsh , but my grandmothers 90 year old neighbour suffered needlessly because he was a victim of a drug addict.
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Good luck detering all the people who smoke cannabis, there is no police force possible to lock them all up.
May as well ban alcohol and smoking too, they cause more problems.
But yeah, a police and military state sounds like a great and safe place to live. May as well remove all those politically against it too as they just cause problems.
May as well kill all the jews at the same time too.
Last part of your post was needless, off topic & rather insensative to say the least.
I'm 44 years of age & have have seen this country decline over the past 30 years, one of the main reasons being drug abuse & society tollerating it to a certain extent.
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Harsher punishments don't work as a deterrent. Look at the United States, parts of that has the death penalty but it doesn't stop murder. Solving the problems that lead to drug abuse is a nice idea in theory, but I don't think it'd work in practice. What leads someone to smoke cannabis is different to someone taking heroin, which is different to those taking cocaine, and is different again to those taking ecstasy.
Harsher punishments don't work as a deterrent. Look at the United States, parts of that has the death penalty but it doesn't stop murder. Solving the problems that lead to drug abuse is a nice idea in theory, but I don't think it'd work in practice. What leads someone to smoke cannabis is different to someone taking heroin, which is different to those taking cocaine, and is different again to those taking ecstasy.
I'm not really concerned about recreational drug use, like cannabis or ecstasy. I think a better effort could help reduce the rate of drug addiction though.
Anyways, the DEA tried spraying the cocaine with herbicide. The guys just develop herbicide resistant crops. The coast guard patrols the coast, and then these guys just ship the stuff in submarines. These guys are crafty. How do you intend to stop them?
I'm not really concerned about recreational drug use, like cannabis or ecstasy. I think a better effort could help reduce the rate of drug addiction though.
Anyways, the DEA tried spraying the cocaine with herbicide. The guys just develop herbicide resistant crops. The coast guard patrols the coast, and then these guys just ship the stuff in submarines. These guys are crafty. How do you intend to stop them?
I don't. I think it'd be a never ending effort to attempt to stop it. The fact that cigarettes are legal has never managed to stop the black market trade in them. It would be the same with currently illegal drugs.
I can see both sides of the legalisation argument, especially if it was a sort of halfway stage with legalised zones. But I think there are problems with both, and the situation will never be ideal. Let's face it, drug addicts don't tend to vote and with the economy the way it is right now politicians can't run the risk of alienating the tax paying voters. That's why these sorts of issues rarely top the agenda.
