If you can't have serious conversations in general chat, where can you have them?
They're not supportive.
I was more saying with this particular thread because the op has an indivualised emotional attachment to the specific story and that if they need Support regarding that aspect general advice would have been a better place However if the thread was pure debate which it does seem to be turning into then fair enough to stay in general chat, it was just because it seemed to be an emotional issue at the beginning :)
Anyhoo, *stops hijacking*
'Never forget what you are. The rest of the world will not. Wear it like armor, and it can never be used to hurt you.'
['There is only one thing we say to death. Not today'.']
'We are each our own devil, and we make this world our hell.’ – Oscar Wilde
‘It’s hard to dance with the devil on your back.’ Sydney Carter
^agreed.
And I agree with Mari too, in general. Although the support group I go to featured in a very tasteful article in one of the girly magazines, which was just a couple of articles about people who had been helped by money from Comic Relief. So I think media portrayal can be done successfully, when done by reputable magazines/tv channels.
It can be, but lets face it no one wants to read it, i mean we dont not buy magazines with the feature article "raped by my dad at 13 and pregnant" because we are repulsed by it, we want to find out the gossip.
It sells, and its sad because many people will sell there story only to have it completely turned around into a trashy article.
"Its not how long a star shines, what is remembered is the brightness of the light"
People who sell their story presumably sell it to a magazine that they read regularly, or at least have read once or twice (because that's why they chose that one out of all of the other choices). They should know how these sorts of stories are treated. What one will do to the story will be very different from how another will treat it.
A girl I was in hospital with years ago went to the media because she wasn't getting help with her anorexia, there isn't really any help for it over here. Anyway, an anon donor offered to pay for her to go to England but then the government paid it instead for her. As far as I know she's better now.
I've thought & thought about this. I would LOVE to go on a show like This Morning & explain all about my illnesses & how I hate the fact that there is so much stigma surrounding mental illness, & gently suggest that the public try to educate themselves more so we don't feel so persecuted.
But I'm afraid of getting ridiculed. So I haven't. I've settled for writing a book instead, to try & change people's attitudes towards it. I'm going in-depth on how it feels to live inside a mind that's constantly pulling you both ways - deeper & deeper into depression & then the next minute wanting to recover (even if you don't act on it). A lot of people have depression yet don't speak up. I want to include Bipolar & Schizophrenia & maybe eating disorders in the book too, but I don't want to go too far.. if I include them, would that be going too far, since some people don't understand it much?
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i think the problem with the idea of 'if it wasn't talked about it wouldn't happen as much' is a double edged sword, yes i think there are lots of people who do it because they have heard about it somewhere or other but how many people (like me) were the only person they'd ever heard about doing it when they started?
its a toughy, do we talk about it less and hope it goes down or do we talk about it so that the people who are suffering can be helped or at least feel less like freaks (as i used to).
I've settled for writing a book instead, to try & change people's attitudes towards it. I'm going in-depth on how it feels to live inside a mind that's constantly pulling you both ways - deeper & deeper into depression & then the next minute wanting to recover (even if you don't act on it). A lot of people have depression yet don't speak up. I want to include Bipolar & Schizophrenia & maybe eating disorders in the book too, but I don't want to go too far.. if I include them, would that be going too far, since some people don't understand it much?
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Your last question - in all honesty (since you asked)? I wouldn't say it's going in too much - I'd just say that there are an awful lot of books out there like that at the moment. If people don't understand this stuff, it's not because there's a lack of information/"this is my story" type books out there - people put barriers up, and no amount of semi-biographical books will break that barrier down.
I was in the channel 4 documentary The Cutting Club that featured RYL.
I really wanted to watch that but I missed it. Is there any way to view it online?
PM me if you want a PDF copy of the ICD-10or the Mental Health Act 1983/2007. I ALSO HAVE THE DSM-V BOOK and am a pharmacology student.
I have a visual impairment / neurological problems so I need people to type in clear text and no funny fonts. Also excuse any typos, my vision blocks things out.
I have autism and have problems communicating, PMs included.
Just becasue I type well doesn't mean I speak well. I am only part time verbal.
*jumps back into thread* I've been thinking about this and i don't really see the point in people going to the media for two reasons,
1) It's kinda old news all this SH/ED stuff (i don't mean to sound heartless)..
2) If you do go to the media they will spin the story and make people that do SH or have ED's sound totally crazy..
Or am i totally wrong here?..
Your last question - in all honesty (since you asked)? I wouldn't say it's going in too much - I'd just say that there are an awful lot of books out there like that at the moment. If people don't understand this stuff, it's not because there's a lack of information/"this is my story" type books out there - people put barriers up, and no amount of semi-biographical books will break that barrier down.
I see your point, but I'm not making it semi-biographical, I'm writing a fiction book instead. I thought doing a semi-biographical account would be a bit too difficult because I'd have to face what I do to myself, so figured a fiction book would be better? It's not going to have anything I've personally done to myself in it...
I understand that people put barriers up & might not want to accept mental illness even after they'd read it. I just want to make a difference to even one person. Might self-publish on Kindle or something.
I was in the channel 4 documentary The Cutting Club that featured RYL.
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I saw you!! Rafiki I think it's great you're trying to raise awareness through your writing, I say go for it and I hope it does help at least one person, then it would be worth it.