we need more active mods/harley/important people full stop.
There needs to be a system in place where there is at least one mod on throughout the day but that system was clearly dismissed even though in the days of AOL chat lol the mods werent paid and they had their set times to be online never did them any harm.
Another thing ALL chat/forum mods have each others mobile numbers so when drama is caused they can be contactable to sort it out before it esculates.
we need more active mods/harley/important people full stop.
There needs to be a system in place where there is at least one mod on throughout the day but that system was clearly dismissed even though in the days of AOL chat lol the mods werent paid and they had their set times to be online never did them any harm.
Another thing ALL chat/forum mods have each others mobile numbers so when drama is caused they can be contactable to sort it out before it esculates.
There are usually one or two mods online. I mean, the mornings (9-11am) it is quieter but then, so is RYL generally. I'll agree that we need more mods and more input from those with the power to change the site and mods do have a responsibility to this site. However, they can't be expected to jump to the nearest computer if there is drama as that would encourage their offline life to be ruled by RYL. If there is drama, it seems to be sorted pretty quickly, from my experience. I would imagine that a lot of mods have each other's phone numbers anyway.
Are you kidding?
You really think its viable to force mods to come on at a certain time every day. This is NOT paid work, this is something we do in our spare time. You expect me to come home from work, do uni work and then sit on RYL at my alloted time?That is so completely ridiculous, what if I have something else to do, or god forbid want to do something thats not work or getting abuse on RYL....should I then be 'fired' for not being on at my time slot?
And another thing,only one mod has my number, because shes a friend in real life.....theres no way I should be rung or text on my mobile phone to be told to come onto RYL.
I cannot actually believe Im reading this.
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Originally Posted by PinkGlitteredFairy
we need more active mods/harley/important people full stop.
There needs to be a system in place where there is at least one mod on throughout the day but that system was clearly dismissed even though in the days of AOL chat lol the mods werent paid and they had their set times to be online never did them any harm.
Another thing ALL chat/forum mods have each others mobile numbers so when drama is caused they can be contactable to sort it out before it esculates.
There are times to stay put, and what you want will come to you.
But there are times to go out into the world and find such a thing for yourself.
I aint no abacus but you can count on me.
we need more active mods/harley/important people full stop.
There needs to be a system in place where there is at least one mod on throughout the day but that system was clearly dismissed even though in the days of AOL chat lol the mods weren't paid and they had their set times to be online never did them any harm.
Another thing ALL chat/forum mods have each others mobile numbers so when drama is caused they can be contactable to sort it out before it escalates.
Yes we need more mods. This isn't AOL. Why would any mod want to be interrupted on a night or day out just to come on here and deal with dramas? Use the report feature and a mod will deal with it when they are available to come on and do so.
Lololol, imagine getting a text because a fight broke out on RYL. Hahahaha.
I think the mods do a fantastic, fantastic job (especially considering the lack of admin powers they have in some respects). I certainly think they are on frequently enough, too.
How about, instead of mods needing to be contacted 24/7 to stop drama escalating.. people just... grow... up? Ignore the people causing drama? Leave if it is upsetting? Crazy stuff!
OH OH OH we should have a red phone that goes off.
MOD EMERGENCY.
Hell, no way on earth do I want to be rung up about a problem on RYL or given a certain time I have to be online modding. I do what I can when I can. I think people forget this is a voluntary, non paid thing that we do.
I agree with Aimee. A lot of the drama is generated from members themselves and if people acted more maturely or stopped bullying others in the first place then a lot of problems would be solved.
Isn’t it funny how day by day nothing changes but when you look back, everything is different…
you once called your brain a hard drive, well say hello to the virus.
guess what something major happened to me on this site! by some idiot which I still havent had any information about. Guess what there was no mods on! when it happened! and quite a few times when i pop on here no mods are on.
I really dont think you should dismiss me that quickly Liv, sarah, and i'm quite offended by your response to this. I have said for a while something more structured needs to be put in place and as mods you shouldnt completely jump down my throat!
Yes you do have lives but you have made a commitment to come and mod an important website that needs the mods to be active and efficient with dealing with a subject like this.
When you do work you do do it well and do a great job when you are on here,
I really did not appreciate you all jumping down my throat.
I don't know the specifics but I think I remember when that was and I am sorry that whatever it did, happened to you. I do believe that bullying will occur whatever the place or situation and it is a shame that this cannot be avoided... I just think it's a sad part of life, regardless of how many mods we have and how good a job they do. However, I think that sometimes it's just unfortunate timing that drama occurs. As I said before, I do actually think that there are usually mods online and their commitment doesn't necessarily extend to a set amount of hours a week - also, I think mods can be invisible so you might not necessarily know when one is online. Mods do generally give a lot of time to this website and I believe that way more goes on behind the scenes than we are aware of.
When drama does occur, it is good to try to bite your tongue and not say anything. There have been so many threads where I could have entered an argument but I either switch off them or, if they are really bugging me, I put them ignore. That way, I won't get hurt by any offensive comments aimed at me. Yes, it does hurt, granted, and I am not taking away from that in the slightest but perhaps it would be useful for people to step back, count to ten and think about what they're writing before they post. This isn't aimed at you specifically, Laura, it's more of a general statement.
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Yes it was horrible what happened to you, I don't think anyone is saying it's not. It was disgusting and that person really needs to grow up and stop being a bully, but at the end of the day this is a voluntary thing and people do have lives. They have other things to do. There are only a few mods and as far as I know, Liv is at uni, Sarah is at college and everyone else has a job/somtething else that keeps them busy during the day.
If you push them too hard they will leave and then there will be nothing and this site will just fail completely.
As you can see by the OTHER threads on this entire suggestion forums, THE MODS THEMSELVES are QUITE unhappy and stressed with the current situation. Believe me when I tell you that Liv and Charlie and Katy and all of them are NOT pleased that they have to practically live on RYL to protect people from a little spam bot or a little mocking. I'm sure if you asked any of them, the first thing they'd tell you is that they'd kill for some extra staff. Don't make the mistake of assuming they're happy to be swamped with unpaid voluntary modding on a self injury support site. Liv can't do anything to rectify it. Nor can Katy. Nor can Charlie. All they can do is hope and pray that eventually Harley gets off his ass and fixes the simple issue so that they can have more staff.
This was the original intention of this thread was it not.
I think (and i admit to myself doing this from time to time) that we do forget that people have lives outside of RYL. And there is really no easy solution to this.
I'm not jumping down anyones throat but I dont think we can be expected to patrol this site 24/7. If something happens then we react and deal with it accordingly, but we can't be there all the time. In any case, just being online wont prevent people from trolling. They will do it regardless.
Isn’t it funny how day by day nothing changes but when you look back, everything is different…
you once called your brain a hard drive, well say hello to the virus.
i dont mean to be rude Laura, but the situation youre referring to, and ive just checked, was posted at 12.37am uk time.
i had happened to go into chat when i got home from work, at 1:30am, and members were like 'this is here' and i had deleted them all immediately. i dont think that thats too long to wait for moderator action, especially at that time of night.
in regards to action taken regarding that situation, when people use proxys, we just can not trace who it was. its difficult to take action against someone that you have no proof who they might be.
the situation as it is is.. awful from a moderating side, but really, there is nothing that can be done until peoples situations improve, or until Harley comes back.
Also, a lot of the trouble between certain members seems to happen over formdpring and stuff, which we can do nothing about.
I cant speak for all the mods of course, but.. in regards to my own situation, and im one of the most regular mods, i am currently working 50 odd hours a week, often finishing at 5am, and i have 10 days until i am going to be homeless. a lot of the mods are having a much harder time than i am.
We do need new mods, but to be honest, i dont think theres anyone that really stands out as being able to, or wanting to do it... and.. again, nothing can be done without Harley.
Also... maybe as an example of the things the mods are trying to work with currently, when approving a meet, it is meant to go into the calendar so there is a written record of when meets are occurring and links to the threads.
when we moved into 2011, i realised the calendar did not start the new year.
I have been emailing and pm'ing since December last year to ask that 2011 gets added to the calendar so i can approve meets and have the written record.
it is now mid june, i have received no reply. not one.
I have a full-time job, I am also doing a part-time MSc course. I also enjoy trying to have some sort of a social life with my friends. Additionally I enjoy sitting in my room reading a book which is not related to my job or studies. Later this month I am starting an NVQ again.
Throw into that the fact that I clearly have mental health issues (or else I wouldn't be a member here).
Modding is NOT my life. It is not even a priority. It is something I do because this site has helped me a lot and I was asked to be a mod, and I feel that by being a mod I can maybe help keep the site running so it can help other people.
If I am free and in a frame of mind to be modding then I am generally online and in chat anyways. But if someone texted me saying there was drama and I needed to get online, I would be VERY pissed off. People who have my number do occasionally text me and ask if I'm able to get into chat to sort out a troll or something, but that being made into a necessity for all mods is not right. We are all people, we have lives, we have our own **** going on.
Yes the modding situation at the moment isn't idea, but there is realistically nothing that anyone here can do about that. It needs Harley to be active, and for whatever reasons he is not. So we can either put extra pressure on the very few mods that we have currently, something which will most likely lead to them cracking and quitting modding (I know I for one am very close to this at the moment, and mainly because of attitudes such as this that the mods aren't doing enough). OR the members here can stop acting like 2 year olds throwing tantrums and can take some responsibility for their actions like they are expected to in the real world, and can behave like decent human beings, meaning that the mods won't have to deal with misbehaving.
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Originally Posted by PinkGlitteredFairy
guess what something major happened to me on this site! by some idiot which I still havent had any information about. Guess what there was no mods on! when it happened! and quite a few times when i pop on here no mods are on.
Additionally Laura, when this incident happened, I was online, and you PM'd me. Yes, I was unable to deal with the threads in question because I don't have forum moderator abilities, but I talked to a forum mod who I happened to have on msn, and she very nicely came online and dealt with it. The whole thing was handled within 15 minutes of the posts being created. Realistically I don't think you can expect things to be dealt with online in any quicker a time period.
Just to play devil's advocate here... There's a TON of people who would happily be a mod, and I for one would be chilled with having a 'shift' of being mod, like a couple of hours a week when I'd definitely be on, just like other voluntary positions, like working in a charity shop, where you have a shift. By having shifts, it's not denying you the other 164 hours of your week.
I know that the main problem is that there's no Harley to give out mod-powers, but it appears to have descended into a debate about the whole structure of mods, so yeah, just thought I'd uhh, put in my tuppence.
