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Old 08-09-2007, 07:00 PM   #61
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I also agree what has been said about the class issue. If that wasnt a middle class family social services would be investigating and crawling all over them for leaving small children alone.


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Old 08-09-2007, 07:06 PM   #62
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ha, funny how now they both named suspects they cant wait to leave portugal.

Draw your own conclusions .....

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Old 08-09-2007, 07:49 PM   #63
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wat i wanna know is if the parents are to blame what will happen too all the money raised and the money they have wasted.

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Madeleine’s fund is a non charitable not-for-profit company, which has been established to help find Madeleine McCann and to support her family and bring her abductors to justice. Any surplus funds will be used to help families and missing children in the United Kingdom, Portugal and elsewhere in similar circumstances. If there are surplus funds Madeleine’s Funds can be converted into a charity.

The Fund is following best practice governance procedures as set out in the Good Governance Code for the Voluntary and Community Sector. The directors of the company are Peter Hubner, Brian Kennedy, John McCann, Esther McVey, Doug Skehan and Philip Tomlinson. They have appropriate legal, business and charitable experience. An experienced Fund Administrator has been appointed to ensure the highest standards of transparency and accountability. This should enable the Directors to maintain an appropriate governance distance in the day-to-day operations of the Fund.

The Board and its individual Directors will ensure that the Fund is subject to required financial legal scrutiny. They will ensure that they receive reliable external advice and information, as the basis for making good decisions.

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Old 08-09-2007, 07:52 PM   #64
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Personal I'm abit dissappointed that they didn't make Maddy's Parents suspects in the first place. Usually when people go missing, they're on the news at least twice. And the second time is just that said persons' family doing an appeal. It's been nearly what 4 months or something since she dissappeared and suddenly all over the news is Maddy this and Maddy that. It makes me sick actually to think that her Parents have killed her and they're just using her 'apparent' dissappearence as an excuse to be on tele. It's so sick.




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Old 08-09-2007, 07:57 PM   #65
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I mean what kind of parent leaves their child on their own in a hotel room? And they were offered a babysitter on their holiday sight to look after the kids for FREEE and they refused.
I find this extremely odd. In all honesty, I'd rather pay for a babysitter (therefore having slightly less money to pay for a meal) than leave my children alone and spend the money I could've used for a babysitter on a meal.

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when she ran back to report maddie missing to her friends, she left the twins alone in the room again, now if one of your children went missing, would you really leave your 2 babies alone again to go tell people the other one has gone?
This just seems very irresponsible to me and I do remember hearing about this.

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Madeleine’s fund is a non charitable not-for-profit company, which has been established to help find Madeleine McCann and to support her family and bring her abductors to justice. Any surplus funds will be used to help families and missing children in the United Kingdom, Portugal and elsewhere in similar circumstances. If there are surplus funds Madeleine’s Funds can be converted into a charity.

The Fund is following best practice governance procedures as set out in the Good Governance Code for the Voluntary and Community Sector. The directors of the company are Peter Hubner, Brian Kennedy, John McCann, Esther McVey, Doug Skehan and Philip Tomlinson. They have appropriate legal, business and charitable experience. An experienced Fund Administrator has been appointed to ensure the highest standards of transparency and accountability. This should enable the Directors to maintain an appropriate governance distance in the day-to-day operations of the Fund.

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yes which is all well and good however my poitn is all these donatiosn have been in faith that there the parents didnt know a thing and not that the parents did it themselfs and now it turns out the parents may have doen it and all this mone ygiven to support the parents may have been going to help the parents cover up their own attrocity.

thats fraud to me if the parents do turn out to be the killers, accidental or not.

that is a lot of wasted money, wasted faith and wasted time that could of been better spent.

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Old 08-09-2007, 08:07 PM   #67
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and even if they didnt do it, with all their irresponsibilty, they easliy could have.
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Old 08-09-2007, 08:09 PM   #68
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and even if they didnt do it, with all their irresponsibilty, they easliy could have.
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i was trying to ignore that fact, imo they are responsible to a degree and on a charge of neglegent mansluaghter or something like that ?

the fact is they have two other kids is it and they have been flyign round the world, stayign in spain, doing everythign for there other missing kid, how must it affect the remaining kids

the fact is there nto fit to be parents imo ignore the fact they lsot a kid

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Old 08-09-2007, 08:25 PM   #69
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It is very easy from a completely removed standpoint, with the benefit of hindsight, to say that they were negligent, irresponsible, not fit to be parents and to point the finger at them.

Maybe, just maybe, they had nothing to do with it whatsoever and they are genuinely parents who are trying to come to terms with one of their children being taken from them. Yes, we can all go on about them constantly being in the press, how it isn't normal not to show any emotion etc but what's normal? I can't honestly tell you how I'd react if one of my children (were I to have any) was taken away from me - maybe I'd be in tears, maybe I wouldn't, I just don't know and I don't think anyone on here can possibly comment on that unless they've been subjected to it themselves.

Likewise, we can say that they shouldn't have left their children unattended. Very easy to say so after the event. Perhaps they honestly believed that their kids would be safe in the house whilst they had a meal? Maybe it didn't cross their minds that one of their children could be abducted? I'm sure that with the benefit of hindsight they wouldn't have done so.

I'm sure the McCanns aren't perfect parents. How many are? I'm sure that over the years they've done the best they can for their children. Now, it could, of course, transpire that they are in some way complicit in the disappearance of their daughter but it seems to me that at the moment there is some sort of witch hunt against them based purely on speculation, half truths, and downright lies & fabrications that stems from their constant media appearances since Madeline went missing. Much as it irritates me, and I've been a critic of their conduct regarding this in the past, is society so judgmental these days that we can't accept that it might just be the case that they are trying to get their child back?

Sorry about all that, guys, rant over :)

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Old 08-09-2007, 08:28 PM   #70
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This world is crazy. i really hope it wasent them and she is still alive somewhere but i don't know.

i hope thier other kids are ok, any parent who would leave thier young child alone anywhere. let alone a hotel in a unkonwn place i wouldent call responsable. that alone should get child services involved or something.

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Old 08-09-2007, 08:33 PM   #71
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you so know those two only had kids to complete their lifestyle with their middle class detatched house, resonably priced cars in the driveway and expensive holidays, kids was the logical step.

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It is very easy from a completely removed standpoint, with the benefit of hindsight, to say that they were negligent, irresponsible, not fit to be parents and to point the finger at them.

Maybe, just maybe, they had nothing to do with it whatsoever and they are genuinely parents who are trying to come to terms with one of their children being taken from them. Yes, we can all go on about them constantly being in the press, how it isn't normal not to show any emotion etc but what's normal? I can't honestly tell you how I'd react if one of my children (were I to have any) was taken away from me - maybe I'd be in tears, maybe I wouldn't, I just don't know and I don't think anyone on here can possibly comment on that unless they've been subjected to it themselves.

Likewise, we can say that they shouldn't have left their children unattended. Very easy to say so after the event. Perhaps they honestly believed that their kids would be safe in the house whilst they had a meal? Maybe it didn't cross their minds that one of their children could be abducted? I'm sure that with the benefit of hindsight they wouldn't have done so.

I'm sure the McCanns aren't perfect parents. How many are? I'm sure that over the years they've done the best they can for their children. Now, it could, of course, transpire that they are in some way complicit in the disappearance of their daughter but it seems to me that at the moment there is some sort of witch hunt against them based purely on speculation, half truths, and downright lies & fabrications that stems from their constant media appearances since Madeline went missing. Much as it irritates me, and I've been a critic of their conduct regarding this in the past, is society so judgmental these days that we can't accept that it might just be the case that they are trying to get their child back?

Sorry about all that, guys, rant over :)


I understand what your saying. im not ready to claim for sure that they did it either.

One thing i must say though is. you should NEVER EVER under ANY circumstances. leave a small child alone. its never ok. cant get a babysitter? take them with you or don't go anywhere period.

Other than that i agree with you, but i just wanted to make clear that leaving s little kid alone is never excusable. you just don't do that.

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Old 08-09-2007, 08:49 PM   #73
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nope its not hindsight.

its common sense that you do not leave 3 young kids alone in an apartment, abroad with an unlocked door where you are out of sight.

come on how stupid and irresponsible do you have to be.

its not liek they had to run round to the neighbours or something, this was planned and thought out.

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Old 08-09-2007, 08:50 PM   #74
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One thing i must say though is. you should NEVER EVER under ANY circumstances. leave a small child alone. its never ok. cant get a babysitter? take them with you or don't go anywhere period.
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Old 08-09-2007, 10:10 PM   #75
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I still don't know what to believe but after hearing and reading so much about that night and her parents actions I'm starting to think that they did have something to do with it, which is an incredibly horrible thought.

& if it was them they have cheated so many people out of so much money that was given in good will to help find Maddie and the whole thng will have been one sick massive con.



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Old 09-09-2007, 12:19 AM   #76
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I've said since day one when she was taken from the appartment that i think the parents are involved in one way or another.. I hope we find out one way or another soon as my sister who is 4 is now scarred to stay in an empy room in our house since it happened incase someone comes and gets her...Keeps asking have they found maddie yet!


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Old 09-09-2007, 12:26 AM   #77
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Maybe they hired people to kidnap her so they could get the money from all the caring people and the publicity, something went wrong and that's why blood was found forever later. Okay, I'm just pulling **** out of my ass.

You know, I have no clue what's going on. I don't feel near as bad for the family as I do for the little girl. Being abducted has to be a horrible experience in itself, much less not seeing your parents for four months if you're still alive.

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You know, I have no clue what's going on. I don't feel near as bad for the family as I do for the little girl. Being abducted has to be a horrible experience in itself, much less not seeing your parents for four months if you're still alive.

Agreed.
I have like no sympathy for the parents but that child.

Poor thing.

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Old 09-09-2007, 05:36 AM   #79
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its dodgy as all hell...
anyways heres my speculation -
madeleine died by accident - by an accidental overdose of toxic substance,
probably alcohol or class A drugs.
this means family have to cover this up or they stand to lose their other 2 kids
their holiday freinds have made nothing but false statements from day1, ESPECIALLY about the man seen carrying away a small child (they also partook in the class A drugs) amd helped the family cover up the death (hid her body in a large scale freezer) and either kate mcann or a family freind hid the body...
theres a lot of money changing hands over this and no-one seems to be completely innocent,
i dont think this will ever be resolved

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The thing I dont understand is how they have managed to move the body with no one seeing them 25 days after the event. With all the media coverage and the fact that they have had family liasons officers with them for so long it just seems impossible.

Also where have they hidden Maddy for the first 25 days so that she hasnt been found? They are on holiday so wont have things like a freezer to hand and the searches done were pretty thorough.

Would you really help friends conceal and murder and then stand back and not say anything about it whilst they raised millions, travelled the world and so on.

Also has the blood actually been confirmed as Madelines?

I dont know if they are innocent or not there just seems to be so many questions going around in addition to which havent the police said they have another aguido?




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