so like, yeah, i want to get through christmas & stuff till i tell camhs that i have plans, places, ect where I want to die, that i'm truly serious about being suicidal.. :S what does it take to be put in IP & what actually happens? :S
no, i dont want to, i wanna avoid it but im sure if i told them i have plans, placing, methods, ect, i wouldnt get set free considering the place is about 20 minute walk from my house..
i think the fact that you're seriously planning to end your life is enough. But then again its different with every place. You'd probably be referred by your outpatients and then assessed by the team at the inpatient unit thats if you go informal not if you're sectioned. You may be made day patient at the IP unit rather than being IP or they could decide being IP is not best for you and improve your community care by getting more intensive treatment, medication etc
I think you should tell them though no doubt about that.
"It is not the strength of the body that counts, but the strength of the spirit"
-J.R.R Tolkien
It takes a lot to be admitted, but if you tell them honestly that you want to take your life, they may assess you & see how much of a risk you are, & take it from there.
They don't tend to admit minors unless it's very urgent or if they are at serious risk of suicide.
they know i want to die but apparently im not suicidal according to the letter i got from them?
heyho, like i just said, they know i want to die, just havent gone into details with it..
It took a serious suicide attempt, a section 136 and a night in a police cell until I went IP in the nearest adolescent unit. It took an even more serious attempt when I was there for them to section me, taking me from voluntary to detained.
Before my second admission to the unit I basically just told them I had detailed plans to end my life and they sent me back. Although I don't think they would have if I hadn't still been seeing the outreach worker from the unit who saw the deterioration.
So yeah it takes quite a bit. Just be honest with them if you can. IP isn't the nicest place to be but they do try their best to keep you safe.
i dont want to go, which is the point of this thread really, even though a few people (parents included) said i could probably benefit from it.. i dont even know, i think im asking to try avoid it but at the same time, i think i may agree with people who have said it may be beneficial. :S
I don't know if you have partial/day programs where you are...but I would definitely do that if they feel you can benefit from a structured environment to work on things a few hours a day. Way better than inpatient in my experience. More beneficial.
That is, if seeing a therapist and/or doctor on an outpatient basis isn't helping enough. That would be my next step before even considering inpatient.
Yes it does take a lot and yes they are crap. I was actively suicidal, had already nearly dies from one attempt, seriously self harming more than before, my diagnosis was changing, a risk to others and i was incredibly out of control for anyone to deal with me, everyone had had enough. NOt much has changed though and i was in there for 9 months.
It varies from area to area, technically i should have been admitted before i got to that point as im now just as good as treatment resistant. However i've saw people come in for a lot less. I think it depends on all sorts of factors. I think if you explain bluntly then they should atleast renew your care plan.
"It is not the strength of the body that counts, but the strength of the spirit"
-J.R.R Tolkien
I agree with Sarah, TimesLikeThese, in that some are good and others are not, but you have to be honest with them in order for them to give you treatment options that are suitable. Please do tell them what is going on for you, Emma, even though it is hard. xxx
IP could be good or it could be bad depending on how you work with them. Its not a holiday, its not easy and there are some uber **** times.
If i had known what i do now, back then, i would have worked hard in the community and tried to carry on with my life with my outpatient team.
Tell your team your thoughts but also try and work with them to find ways of helping you. See IP as a last resort kinda place.
Take care, let us know how it goes xxx
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"If i had known what i do now, back then, i would have worked hard in the community and tried to carry on with my life with my outpatient team."
^ This. (Can't quote from posts... sorry!).
^^seconded.
i used to have the idea that IP would be a 'break', a 'rest'...it isnt.
Try to exhaust everything they can offer within the community first, then try it again.
I hope they can offer something to help.
I really would emphasise what is said above about trying to work hard with an outpatient team before considering IP, but of course you have to judge whether you can keep yourself safe. Try to think of ways they can help you whilst you live at home and do be honest with them. :)
I know it can be hard to believe that IP can actually be difficult and in some ways unhelpful compared to OP. I spent most of my teenage years in various places, some of it was quite horrific (and some lovely) and it affects me a lot to this day. Of course, lots of people don't have those experiences, but it's good to be aware.
Good luck in talking to them. :)
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Emma as you live in the same area as me, I know from exp they dont put ppl in IP unless they really really really have to.
Tend to put you in a day hospital place which personally i didnt find helpful - but i'm not saying all places are like that tho. Just at that particular place there was no therapy, but more of a 'babysitting' service were the staff spent most of the day on Facebook...grrr!
But as said above pls pls exhaust out all the options you have available to you in the community first, IP should be a very very last resort.
CAMHS tend not to put alot of people in as IP as much as possible. aparently I was the only person admitted to the only adoelesant unit in N.I from my area.
In N.I we only have 18 beds in the adolesant unit.
It was after 6 months of serious self harm and suicide attempts that I was admitted and I honestly think adult wards are more likely to admit someone and even at that its quite hard due to the lack of beds and the amount of ill people out there.
Ive often seen under 18's being admitted to adult wards nd due to their age meaning they hve to be on special observtions.
I would advise thinking very carefully about going in IP (i'm IP now and it's ALOT of hard work, although I'm in for my ED this time) but if its the only way you see available you could also try going straight to a&e or your GP if you think its truely the only way your gonna get the support and help you need.
Good luck, I'm only a PM away!
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Yes IP can be nasty. I'm IP atm on a section 2. I was listening to the Voices and basically was on a Mission to kill people in order to become the next god. If only I could have got more help earlier I wouldn't be in this sh*t
I live in southwest London and the adolescent ward is ok but I wouldn't recommend going in hospital for a "rest" - it doesn't feel like a rest at all, especially if the patient alarms are going off every other day
But saying that I've been on a secure unit 4 times and that was better than the regular adult ward....
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