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Old 06-09-2007, 11:04 PM   #1
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Triggering (SI) - Sh warnings on the tv

They have a warning at the start for drugs sex and strong language if a program contains it .but self harm they dont !

i reallly think they need to i mean i was innocently watching a program called coming down the mountin on bbc a few days ago.

and with no warning this boy is cutting and it showed it ! it triggerd me and a few people i know who sh really quite badly
and we cant have been the only ones anyone else get triggerd by it?

but i really think they need warnings at the start of the program if it contains self harm even hollyoaks with eating disorders at the moment must be effecting some people and if you dont watch it regularly how would you know it contained anything triggering? Its happend to me a few times i mean by the general advertisments for them you would have a clue it could contain anything like that!

is it just me thats getting really annoyed with it? its happend like well over 10times recently with od'ing and cutting etc.



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Old 06-09-2007, 11:34 PM   #2
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Ah that sucks. They should definitely put that at the start of the movie. A movie I just recently watched and loved contained self harm but it was in the part where it describes that it's rated R, calling it self destructive violence of young teens, but I don't know how the UK rating system works.

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Old 07-09-2007, 03:12 AM   #3
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That's an interesting idea, and I have been in situations where I wish there was a warning (nice to be watching a public television news program and see "coming up, people who blah blah blah" with a nice little clip of a arm and some sharp implements. I wrote a letter to the PBS station about how terrible it was, as an SIer to see that, etc, but they never responded. I thought for sure I would get a sincere apology and a travel mug). But I don't know how realistic it is. If you put a warning for SI or ED, where do you stop? And what merits a warning? Something that triggers one person won't trigger another, so how detailed does the warning have to be? "Some scenes of mild SI" or "This program contains some scenes that may be disturbing to you if you have ever been self destructive in your life time"? It really sucks to see something like SI unexpectedly. And the shows that I have seen that feature SI usually have some sort of PSA at the end, "if you or someone you know has this problem, there are ways to get help, blah blah blah" but don't you think that SI and stuff are kinda put into shows for the sheer shock factor (unless it is a family drama where a lesson must be learned). But now I am babbling, and I apologize. I wish that there was something to prevent the shock, because it is highly disturbing. But I obviously have no idea how that can be achieved.

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Old 07-09-2007, 07:08 PM   #4
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I agree. I think that there should be a warning. In shows that unexpectedly show SI, it scares me that I might start SIing, because I see it. And with the whole fact that my family doesn't know about it, it's kind of a problem for me and anyone else in this situation. I think we should all make a protest about there being warnings in shows that have clips of SI. I wonder how much it would solve.
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Old 07-09-2007, 07:13 PM   #5
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Wouldn't SI'ing be classed as 'graphic'? I don't see why they don't do this. I mean, they have warning for language, violence and graphic images. (blood, operations, etc)

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Old 07-09-2007, 07:49 PM   #6
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I was watching the Abyss? I think it was for the first time. And then out of the blue one scene pans to the miliraty guy who the pressure is getting to, doing si. I was like O.O Was a bit disturbing and deffinatly triggering. Really didn't expect it in that film. I mean its about underwater peaceful aliens...
The thing is though, could the warnings about SI in a program. Could they trigger too? If they weren't very carefully worded I'd be afraid that they would trigger someone.



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Old 07-09-2007, 08:28 PM   #7
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I agree, they should definately have warning at the beginnings of films and stuff.



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Old 07-09-2007, 08:43 PM   #8
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i have actually been thinking htis for ages, but never posted about it. i think they do need it cos triggering SI/OD and ED (you didnt mention it but i think ti needs ot be there too) could be very dangerous





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Old 07-09-2007, 08:56 PM   #9
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I know how you feel. This has happened to me too on a few occasions. One time was watching The Royal Tenenbaums - I didnt know it was coming up because I didnt read the back of the case. Another time was watching the comedy Peep Show which they'd given no warning from on channel 4. It's not good.



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Old 07-09-2007, 11:44 PM   #10
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Yep, it annoys me too.

I think it's really insenstive, especially if they make a big deal about it being 'bold' to do these storylines.
A warning would be good, that way you can steer clear if you wanted.



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Old 07-09-2007, 11:57 PM   #11
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I think that’s complete rubbish and absolutely impractical. I’m sorry that that triggered you, but that’s the way life is.

If you start putting warnings like that on, where do you stop? I’m sure cancer patients and families of people who died from cancer get a bit teary and upset when that’s on tv but does it require a warning? Um….

If you start doing that then by the time all the warnings have been read out there’ll be no bloody time to put the program on.

Sadly the best thing you can do is read the description in the tv book of the program or start watching Cbeebies.



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Old 08-09-2007, 01:55 AM   #12
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I think that’s complete rubbish and absolutely impractical. I’m sorry that that triggered you, but that’s the way life is.

If you start putting warnings like that on, where do you stop? I’m sure cancer patients and families of people who died from cancer get a bit teary and upset when that’s on tv but does it require a warning? Um….

If you start doing that then by the time all the warnings have been read out there’ll be no bloody time to put the program on.

Sadly the best thing you can do is read the description in the tv book of the program or start watching Cbeebies.
TV shows showing cancer patients don't make the viewers want to get cancer (unless ofcouse they have serious mental issues) or go and do something that will make them get cancer. That's the biggest load of BS I ever heard.

It's not about sensitivity if it were I'd totally agree with you. It's about possible triggers. People may be upset that a family member got murdered or something but showing this in a TV show isn't going to make the viewer think "Hey.. I wanna get murdered". It's not just an issue of upsetting someone.

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Old 08-09-2007, 09:44 AM   #13
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Sorry guys, i have to agree with Delephynite, though hardly in such harsh words. Its very impractical.

1. The ratings/warnings are there to prevent children from seeing inapproriate things, and that is all (aside from the odd cultural sensitivity warning). They arent meant to be, and nor should they be, warnings to people with whatever forms of issues.

2. Yes its terrible that it triggered you, but what about people who have weak stomachs and are sick at the sight of blood. Is it any different for them? Etc etc. But the real world can be triggering, so of course, a fake one on tv certainly can too. If you watch tv, movies, listen to music, play on a comp, i expect you know the varity of things that are one it. You therefore should know some of these things could seriously bother you. Life isnt perfect but we deal.

3. Where to draw the line? I am only ever (and rarely) triggered by people directing SI'ing. Seeing others cut the person, blood etc doesnt bother me at all. Yet for others, a cut and blood, no matter if it was recieve from a fall or SI, will trigger them.

4. I think too many people are pandered to in todays society. They want *their* specific isssues addressed in every media forum. we cant all be looked after. I'd be more accepting of having abuse or rape warnings long before a Self injury one.

5. It would be bad publicity. People who dont SI (and dont understand it) may think the vision is nothing, and will think all people who SI are weak, pathetic, need to get a grip etc. I'd prefer to work on acceptance personally.

Its not that i dont empathise, i do. I watched a fan vid once, and then all of a sudden, *bam* a girl killing her self via cutting. I was shocked, horrified, disturbed, and i'll admit a little triggered. But what could i do about it? Tell the maker they werent sensitive to my needs? No. Our society is becoming too focused on satisfying everyones wishes, that they conflict and cause more issues. In short, read the box etc. Know something about the movie before you see it. Have a plan in place in case something comes up. The sensible common sense things. Take responsibilty for your welfare.

(No i am not saying that if it comes up on a news report or something that you shouldnt be warned. But a simple, this segment has footage that may disturb some viewers, like they do for war etc, should be all thats required. But otherwise, in contexts where there is an element of choice, no.)



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Old 08-09-2007, 06:24 PM   #14
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Personally, I don't see the need for SI warnings. Seeing someone "cutting themselves" on TV and seeing fake blood doesn't trigger me.



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Old 08-09-2007, 06:32 PM   #15
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I think it's ridiculous.
I have to agree with Tamz, black votex whatsit thingy and control freak (I do know your name I think).

It's abit facicle and impracticle to expect trigger warnings on tv.

I personally am not triggered by the sight of blood, or people cutting themselves or others scars or such. Neither are many people I speak to know.

You can't expect the tv company to put a trigger warning on something less than 5% of the population would get triggered by. Some others who haven't slef harmed may find it slightly disturbing, but they won't get on their high horse and complain.

It's life, it isn't what we want and to be honest if I think it's something you will have to deal with.
If seeing somone cut themselves/ seeing their scars/ cuts triggers you then that is something for you to deal with.
You can't aks everybody to hide themselves or place trigger warnings on their forehead.

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Old 08-09-2007, 07:34 PM   #16
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2. Yes its terrible that it triggered you, but what about people who have weak stomachs and are sick at the sight of blood. Is it any different for them? Etc etc.
There are usually warning on some programs about 'graphic images', which do normally involve blood.

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Old 09-09-2007, 12:26 AM   #17
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I watched coming down the mountain and that bit really triggered me >.<



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Old 26-09-2007, 01:16 PM   #18
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Its obviously different for everyone but for those who it does effect maybe you could write to the bbc just to put your point accross.You've got nothin to lose by doing it :P



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Old 26-09-2007, 02:18 PM   #19
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ive never really thought about it before just cause i really havnt seen any tv shows with self harm in it, but yea they def. should put some warnings in it.

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Old 26-09-2007, 05:00 PM   #20
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PErsonally i would say this:

Yes i agree it is quite impracticle as a whole to have seperate warnings but look at it form teh other point of view.


How long does it take to say:

THis program contains SI triggrs.


Say it, it donst take long.

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