I think because its associated badly with self harm and seen as a rather negative attention seeking thing. So when people call it the emo room, its like calling everyone in it attention seekers and being over dramatic - least what i think.
"Its not how long a star shines, what is remembered is the brightness of the light"
I didn't mean that going to the happy room was offencive at all, I was making a point that it actually ISN'T offencive yet is used in that way, Just as going to the 'emo room' isn't and shouldn't be offencive.
I can now see that yes, in a way, as Bleeding Angel just said, it could be seen as offencive because it has been and is used as a term for attention seeking.
However, on a site like this, when almost everyone is here for support etc, and we all have similar problems and experiences, we should maybe just reinforce that we do not just go around calling people attention seekers. We are all here to give help and recieve help. (I know there is the occasional troll and stuff, but still).
I also think putting a cap on the number of people in serious rooms would be a good idea, however if this was to take place then maybe it should be considered that there should be 2 completely serious rooms at peak times, or at the busiest times of the year just in case as a back up?
Just a thought x
The thing is, maybe it is jsut too daunting for some new people, ones who are in a bad position especially. I think because I didn't understand so much when I first joined (yes, a year ago, but you can learn a lot in a year) I was more okay and more open to these things.
When someone is slightly older, maybe suspicious of a lot of people, that might cause a problem.
They react badly, everyone known sticks up for eachother if something bad is said, and then it causes sparks to fly.
Maybe having some sort of 'buddy' to pair with in some ways could help some of the newcomers settle into chat. It can be difficult to start with, but my God, it isn't half funny when you get to know people. :)
Some of us are older, and have nothing to do with any Emo thing. It's a teen/young people thing. I guess it's a young people's site, mainly. But just wanted to add that point.
Plus, I think that many of us would prefer that our depression or such were actually taken seriously. To say 'oh you're just being emo' to someone in their 30s who's been suffering from mental illness since being a child is offensive. Sorry. But yeah. I've never been called it, but just adding in that scenario. It's .. alienating? And to a young adult who's suffering from psychosis, or PTSD from child sexual abuse, or to a teenager who has a serious mental illness... I could go on.
I don't use chat, but needed to speak out. Hopefully I'm not being too intrusive.
There used to be a specific Vets chat, which may have been free to some degree of this... subculture thing. But it wasn't used enough.
I think more older people here might feel more welcome in Chat if things were less... down on people being 'emotional', sad, etc.
The thing is, chat is basically.. social. It can be hard to boundary it, as it were.
Aye, I understand people want their depression to be taken seriously. And I would like that too, as do many many more. There are places on this site though where everything is taken very seriously (certain rooms on chat, certain forums). Going on the cheneral chit chat forum and posting a huge long thread about your life and depression wouldn't be a good idea, just like going into room one and saying stuff like that wouldn't be a good idea. Its the wrong place. And there are bound to be people who would then tell you to go away, that you're attention seeking or whatever else.
Its common sense.
I find that it is generally (notice I used the word generally, to signify that I am making a generalization, and that this doesn't apply in all cases), it's the older members calling the younger ones "Emo".
Well, for the record, I'm 40, and I would NEVER call anyone Emo. It's just not in my vocabulary, world view, or the way I treat people.
And nor would I misuse the rooms in chat.
I just needed to stand up for myself there.
I don't think anybody is calling anybody else emo, or that it's used in a negative way.. But room 4 is the emotional room, and the term is used in a completely logistical sense. If it's being offensive to any member in particular then yes, it's offensive, but as a general term used to describe a room, rather than a person, and to use a term that is applicable to the attitude of the room... Well, is it offensive?
Last edited by Dreaming. : 23-07-2010 at 06:27 AM.
I've never seen anybody make any comment along the lines of "Oh you're just being emo" Maybe in your mind you find it offensive but it's certainly not meant in that way for the most part. Yes there are people that will use it as an offense but that's not the majority. On a site where anybody can join I think it's normal to expect a few people to be causing trouble hence why the rules are as they are. It can only be picked up and reinforce if people send logs though. I still don't understand how a shortening of the word emotional in regards to a room, not a person, is offensive.
Some of us are older, and have nothing to do with any Emo thing. It's a teen/young people thing. I guess it's a young people's site, mainly. But just wanted to add that point.
Plus, I think that many of us would prefer that our depression or such were actually taken seriously. To say 'oh you're just being emo' to someone in their 30s who's been suffering from mental illness since being a child is offensive. Sorry. But yeah. I've never been called it, but just adding in that scenario. It's .. alienating? And to a young adult who's suffering from psychosis, or PTSD from child sexual abuse, or to a teenager who has a serious mental illness... I could go on.
I don't use chat, but needed to speak out. Hopefully I'm not being too intrusive.
There used to be a specific Vets chat, which may have been free to some degree of this... subculture thing. But it wasn't used enough.
I think more older people here might feel more welcome in Chat if things were less... down on people being 'emotional', sad, etc.
The thing is, chat is basically.. social. It can be hard to boundary it, as it were.
I think you are missing the point here a bit. Depression IS taken seriously. It's just the way in which people may refer to the rooms. I'm part of the group that doesn't find the label particularly offensive. Maybe that's because I don't label myself as an "emo" I don't know. Friends use it to each other in general banter but I've not seen it used as a derogatory term often and where it has it has been picked up upon.
I do know what you mean. I know a lot of older people don't actually realise what 'emo' is, whether it is the style, what it is shortened from or what it is associated with.
The 'emo' style is the thing which is generally stereotyped. Black longish hair, lots of eye makeup, black clothes with a bit of neon in there somewhere, listen to heavy metal, etc etc. And just for the fact now it is 'OMG i'm so emo, I'm gunna go and slit my wrists' etc makes it more difficult for some people to accept it is not used on here as something to offend.
ohhh pickle, emos dont listen to heavy metal :P xx
There are times to stay put, and what you want will come to you.
But there are times to go out into the world and find such a thing for yourself.
I aint no abacus but you can count on me.
They dooo?Ah my bf will be pleased (not),hehe,when he is doing his metal DJ nights he always gets asked for music like hawthorn heights/paramore etc, when he says he doesnt have it cause its not metal they get all irate :P x
There are times to stay put, and what you want will come to you.
But there are times to go out into the world and find such a thing for yourself.
I aint no abacus but you can count on me.
