I slightly confused how people can be so against it when most of these people have no problems with piercings or tattoos. Scarification has been away way longer than those other 2 forms of modification!
I been looking into getting a small scarification piece done. Something special
Let me be the one you call
If you jump i'll break your fall
Lift you up and fly away with you into the night
If you need to fall apart
I can mend a broken heart
If you need to crash then crash and burn YOU'RE NOT ALONE
I'd like something done too. Everyone I've mentioned to it thinks it is bizarre but in the longrun I have a load of scars anyway. Although seeing ones that are purposely made to go hypertrophic or keloid is a bit offputting. I think it can look messy. But other than that its a person's own choice and I think everyone has the right to do what they want to their bodies.
What doesn't kill you can only **** you up for a really really long time...
Female genital mutilation (FGM) or female "circumcision" has also been used a long time. "Duration" or commonality of a practice is no gauge of health. Such rites are used to degrade people and make them subject to a cultural identity more dominant than an individual identity. That's a reason such cultures like to do it to kids at around 12 or 13. At a basic level tats and mods are also self degradation and its no surprise previously degraded people are the most open to it.
FGM ain't scarification though. and may I just *cough* BULLSHIT *cough* what you just said. Scarification, tattoos and piercings have almost always been used as signs of power, Strength and wealth. Its only been more recent times they been given a worse off image.
From tattoos being used to mark Samoan Chiefs to show strength and bravery way back in the 1700's to Labrets showing high status to American Northwest Coast Indians and Scarification being used as a right of passage all over the world.
Let me be the one you call
If you jump i'll break your fall
Lift you up and fly away with you into the night
If you need to fall apart
I can mend a broken heart
If you need to crash then crash and burn YOU'RE NOT ALONE
FGM ain't scarification though. and may I just *cough* BULLSHIT *cough* what you just said. Scarification, tattoos and piercings have almost always been used as signs of power, Strength and wealth. Its only been more recent times they been given a worse off image.
From tattoos being used to mark Samoan Chiefs to show strength and bravery way back in the 1700's to Labrets showing high status to American Northwest Coast Indians and Scarification being used as a right of passage all over the world.
Strength and bravery are their own marker and don't need graffitti. The sort of people who run around getting Chinese symbols for "wisdom" etc. tattooed on themselves don't usually have any. Its just theater really. The brightest most aware people see no advantage in marking themselves up.
Thats doesn't mean its wrong though. If you took the 1 million brightest most productive people in the UK, and then took the 1 million dullest, least productive people in the UK - guess who proabably has more tattooes? I tell yeah when little kids see people all inked-up and with fish-hooks in the faces they see its as odd.
Thats doesn't mean its wrong though. If you took the 1 million brightest most productive people in the UK, and then took the 1 million dullest, least productive people in the UK - guess who proabably has more tattooes? I tell yeah when little kids see people all inked-up and with fish-hooks in the faces they see its as odd.
I don't know what criteria you're using to define 'brightness', but an ex-girlfriends mother is a member of MENSA and she has tattoos.
Most productive? Again, by what criteria? If you're judging by the values which those most dominant in our society deem to be most worthy, then surely it's no surprise that such people conform to the dominant social norms set out by those like themselves.
But who knows who has most tattoos? For all i know, Bill Gates or Dubya Bush may have more than i have. I've never seen either of them naked so i couldn't say.
to be honest, i would never want to get one. i have enough scars. i don't need need any extra scars in the shape of a heart or whatnot. but, i don't mind if others want to get it done. now, if the person was using scarification as way to self harm then i would have a different opinion about it.
I think you're criticising body modification on the wrong forum, to be honest.
What you're saying is quite obviously going to offend, so why say it?
Well I don't think SI is healthy either - do I have to think otherwise because its an SI forum and people might get offended? Last I checked RYL wasn't a tat/piercing forum and I don't think anybody has to fall in line in support of it (not "officially" anyway). Silly.
I carved the kanji for my boyfriend's middle name into my ankle and its already almost gone. I feel stupid for doing it to begin with. I'd never get huge chunks of skin cut out, though. Regular tattoos are enough for me.
I'll keep your memory vague, so you won't feel bad about me...I'll say the things that you said sometimes so it reminds me. -Finger 11
so... are you saying body modification is not healthy?
I think you shouldnt be so offensive especially with the term fish hooks.having piercings and tattoos does not make me stupid or odd.The children i have taught in the past have never thought i was odd and children in the street only think i am odd because of my pink hair.
You are allowed your own opinion i just think what you are saying is wrong.
children don't think its odd. they are the most open minded people.
Hell only last week I was sat on a train and a small child went 'mommy, was she born with purple hair' and his mother went 'no honey, I think she dyed it' and he went 'when I grow up, I want purple hair'
Though back onto the subject. it seems like some people on here who I used to think were quite open minded seem not to be rather happy to insult and put down people just for their modifications.
Yes, I may have tattoos and piercings and want scarification and yes, I may never solve world poverty. That does not make me an idiot though. Though I am currently working hard in college, have a job and are working towards a brighter future. Having my modifications does not make me less of a person, nor do I get my modifications to impress other people to seem 'hard' or whatever. Hell If you saw me you would not even call me a modified person because you would only be able to see one piercing and no tattoos. They are all normally kept hidden because they are for me.
Let me be the one you call
If you jump i'll break your fall
Lift you up and fly away with you into the night
If you need to fall apart
I can mend a broken heart
If you need to crash then crash and burn YOU'RE NOT ALONE
I know what it's like to want to die. How it hurts to smile. How you try to fit in but you can't. How you hurt yourself on the outside to try to kill the thing on the inside. ~ Girl Interrupted
When you dont want to feel, death seems like a dream. ~ Girl Interrupted
I'd never get huge chunks of skin cut out, though. Regular tattoos are enough for me.
