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Old 06-07-2007, 01:26 PM   #21
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I can understand the reasoning behind it yes, doesnt mean I'm happy about it. Smoking in restaurants though is disgusting, I mean smoking while eating, eww.

But the pub thing kinda annoyed me but oh well, I'm sure I'll get used to it.

Though if they try to ban smoking in the streets I'll go mental, really. if you are a non smoker and you walk past someone smoking in the street you only have to put up with it for a second, so really I dont know what the problem is there. if someone is smoking near you while waiting you're waiting for the bus, ask them nicely not to smoke near you, its not hard.

I want a cigarette now :P



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Old 06-07-2007, 01:36 PM   #22
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Some people are taking it a bit too far.
Sainsburys down the road wont let employees or customers smoke in the car park.
My friend got cautioned by the security guard for smoking in her car, which was in the car park, which is owned by Sainsburys.

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Old 06-07-2007, 01:46 PM   #23
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I think this shows just how well this has been thought through;

If you smoke in an enclosed public place you can be fined.

If you refuse to pay the fine you can be taken to court.

If you STILL refuse to pay you can be sent to prison..... where you're allowed to smoke!

So, as punishment for smoking in a enclosed space you get sent to an enclosed space where you're allowed to smoke........ GENIUS!!



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Old 06-07-2007, 02:42 PM   #24
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if you choose to smoke, you choose to stand outside in the rain - simple as, totally unfair the old way when non-smokers had to go outside for a breath of non-smokey air not out of choice, because someone was clogging up the air with smoke. my thoughs - tough to the smokers!
plus the ban means i can go out to a packed place or concert and not get cig burns all over me!



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Old 06-07-2007, 02:52 PM   #25
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The only thing that bugs me, is that you get fined for smoking indoors, so you go outside, where they havent generally put more cigarette bins out. but if you throw your fag end on the street, you get fined anyway.

so.. you go outside and smoke.. and WHERE do you put your fag end???

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Old 06-07-2007, 03:09 PM   #26
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99.9% of the time you do get away with chucking it on the floor, because who's watching really?

They don't have smoking moniters do they.




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Old 06-07-2007, 03:12 PM   #27
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where i live, if you are snapped by the cctv dropping litter including fag ends, it gets printed in the paper, and if a person knows you and wants to make 50quid quick, they tell the police they know who it is, and the litter dropper gets fined.

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Old 06-07-2007, 03:38 PM   #28
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nat: i work at sainsburys. &i've had to smoke in the carpark for the past week or so. i think youre allowed at mine.

charlie: i know thats gay. but like pkl said, as long as you don't drop a fag like in a policepersons face, then you'll be alright.
i nearly always stub my cigs out on the road.
wait. i'm silly. i JUST read your last reply. thats pretty shitty.


how i feel:
agree for ban in restuarants.
not in pubs/clubs, because i just think that s'hit is ridiculous.



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Old 06-07-2007, 04:07 PM   #29
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I smoke sometimes and agree with the ban to be honest. Its not fair on everyone else. Althugh i do think the owners of the bar should really make the decision... and there should be like a smoking room with a door.





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Old 06-07-2007, 04:08 PM   #30
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In middlesbrough town centre there aren't any bins with ashtrays on them, so where do they expect us to put them?

We have that talking CCTV though, so maybe the talking camera will say "Please pick up your fag end"




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Old 06-07-2007, 04:15 PM   #31
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I smoke but we've had the ban since...March 2006?
Even although I am a smoker myself I hate being in a small space where people are smoking so I do support it. However I DO ABSOLUTELY NOT support the changing of age to buy cigarettes to 18!!!
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Old 06-07-2007, 04:57 PM   #32
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i smoked at the train station yesterday. noone said anything. but it was pretty late [like 10:45] so i guess noone would.
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Old 06-07-2007, 05:17 PM   #33
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I don't/didn't smoke when I go out anyway so.
But changing the age from 16 to 18?
What about all the 16 and 17 year olds and are now illegal to smoke?!
The stop smoking programmes at pharmacies and things are for people 18+! o:

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Old 06-07-2007, 05:25 PM   #34
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apparently the not smoking till your 18 thing is only being brought in for none current smokers.

so like if your 16 or 17 now and can PROVE you started smoking before the law came in you can still buy cigarettes.

i have no idea how they are going to ask for proof you smoked before though.

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Old 06-07-2007, 06:03 PM   #35
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Whilst it is a free country and I agree more government legislation in general telling us how to live is bad.... I love the smoking ban. What about all the people who are ill, have asthma? thats not their fault, what about the fact that people who dont want to smoke have to endure a night out surrounded by the stuff against their wishes, and what about the people who work in areas where people smoke?

If people want to smoke they can, in an open area, simple and fair.

As for the age being increased, I seriously doubt it will make a blind bit of difference, as said the stop smoking programme is now only for 18 plus, how nieve can the powers that be get? I have seen 12 year olds smoking, everyone should be entitled to help. Totally silly :S


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Old 06-07-2007, 06:46 PM   #36
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At first when the smoking ban came into power in Scotland you couldn't walk down the street without someone blowing smoke in your face it seemed, but about a month or so it hardly EVER happens, it happens even less than before the ban was put in place.
I don't think the ban is to tell people what they can and can't do, it's to stop people smoking because it's a horrible, pointless habit and as far as I've seen, it has. Trying to improve their quality of life and such.
Almost every pub and club has a shelter or a bench outside now for those that do still smoke.

Ah well, I hate being told what to do but the smoking ban is good and it works.



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Old 06-07-2007, 06:59 PM   #37
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the smoking ban just meant that most of my friends were outside of our prom for the majority of the night.meaning that outside was better than inside anyway!



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Old 07-07-2007, 10:16 AM   #38
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I went to the pub last night first time since the ban came in and before I went I was for the smoking ban (I'm a smoker) but I didn't find my drink at all enjoyable without a fag in my hand, so I just downed it and left. In the restraunt it was better going outside for a fag and I agree with that.

At first before they decided on a total ban they were going to have smoking and non smoking pubs and I think they should have done it like that really.

The thing about the bus shelters (for smoking shelters) your allowed them if they are 50% open.



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Old 07-07-2007, 11:00 AM   #39
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I don't like it when people's rights are infringed upon by authority too much either, however I find that non-smokers' rights are being compromised by allowing the smokers to smoke around them.

I think the bus stop thing's a bit harsh, as is the smoking shelter thing, but overall I agree with it.

It's much nicer going in pubs, etc at the moment though =]

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Old 07-07-2007, 11:06 AM   #40
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Basically it's about weighing up the rights of non-smokers especially who WORK in a pub etc to not have to breathe in a bunch of poisons, against the rights of people to smoke. I think it's a good compromise. After 15 minutes working in a smoky environment there are significant measurable levels of toxins etc in the person's blood. Nobody else's health should be sacrificed for somebody elses pleasure.

If you are that desperate for a cigarette that it just can't wait, you can go outside *shrugs* I agree the bus stop thing might be slightly extreme but on the other hand I hate it when somebody at the bus stop is smoking. I had to stop smoking because I'm athsmatic and second hand smoke can set of an athsma attack.

Besides everyone knows that because of sod's law, the second you light a cigarette at a bus stop the bus comes and you have to put it out. *nods*



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