The Borderline Personality Disorder Thread - Page 37

jenniferlea · 13-09-2008, 11:54 AM

No i dont think that covers you.

But its quite a silly thing for people to say really cause if your depressed and you need help and you cant get it and you say something remotely manipulative like' i am not going to be able to cope' or how am i going to stop si' these things are seen to manipulative. So it seems to me that once you have that diagnosis your seen in a very clinical way and treated that way.

Like some books will say make sure you keep boundries between you and your client who has borderline and i find that people instinctively step back from you. They tend not to want to deal with you.

I was told by my social worker that the crisis mental health team dont have enough experience to deal with me so i am unable to access them now cause they dont know how to deal with people who have PD and yet there is no alternatives out there and if i feel suicidal i must go to A&E.

But if the mental health teams dont know what to do with me how is the A&E going to deal with me.

There is alot of conflicting evidence aswell as to whether treatment actually works with people with borderline.

So as you can see from my point of view i am pretty limited as to what help i can actually get.

And get quite paranoid at times about what the mental health services actually think of me.

lauraw2693 · 13-09-2008, 12:26 PM

I completely agree and don't understand why someone with say bipolar saying they were going to commit suicide is less manipulative than if someone with borderline does? I personally don't see the difference.

I haven't really had anyone taking a step back from me yet, though to be honest I was only diagnosed a few months ago.

I know what you mean though about being paranoid about what the mental services think of you, I'm like that =/ To be honest I've not gone to A&E when I should have several times (SH) because I've been so many times I feel like they're fed up of me and I feel guilty. I've seen the crisis team many times as well and they just always say the same things which evidently don't help.
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jenniferlea · 13-09-2008, 04:30 PM

I have phoned the crisis team many times to be told to make a warm drink and go to bed.
Problem with that is one i dont sleep, if i dont take meds i cant sleep i have always suffered from this propblem, and number two if i thought a hot drink would make it all go away then believe me i would up my intake of tea and as i already drink about twenty cups a day i dont think this is gonna help.

Once when i phoned crisis team and told them that the voices i could hear were getting really bad he just said that i was neurotic and that it was myself turning in on myself and would i wish him luck cause he was going to watch his football team play. How outrrageous is that.

And have you read some of the horrible sights about for people who live with poeple with borderline PD. Its disgusting, dont they realise that this is a real condition with real issues.

It doesnt help either when every single woman in America who kills their partners is then diagnosed with it in prison.

I just despair of the whole thing, i am doing my access to nursing course this year and what do you think my chances are of getting onto the nhs degree course is gonna be.

whirlpools · 13-09-2008, 04:55 PM

i know people with a BPD diagnosis that have been accepted onto nursing degree courses; two in fact are starting this September following being employed by the same hospital they used to visit a lot for self harm and mental health difficulties - so don't worry, it is possible! it's especially possible if you're working on your difficulties. i think they'd be more concerned about your ability to cope than your diagnosis. that might just be an "ideal" view but i hope it's true.

jenniferlea · 13-09-2008, 05:04 PM

Hi whirlpool

Thats a really positve thing to hear for me.
Are your friends still si and stuff though or have they had to be incident free for so long.

Bitter_Angel · 14-09-2008, 02:38 AM

Dont apply for the course unless you really are in a good place mental health wise, because im being honest when i say that the course is tough. It ruins a lot of people who didnt have problems before. But yes you can still get on the course as long as you are "stable" and have been for a while.

lauraw2693 · 14-09-2008, 07:27 PM

Random but I love the quote in your signature Bitter_Angel, Goo Goo Dolls oui? *zips mouth again*

MrsNutkin · 14-09-2008, 10:27 PM

My Mum left my Dad (thank goodness) in December he was never physical with his abuse but he was very controlling and he'd always have to be right. He never liked listening to people. He would walk away from argumens etc

I have been told my my new therapist who has never met him that my Dad may have traits of Boderline - at the lower end of the spectrum

It's definately interesting and good to know there may be a medical reason for his behaviour, the problem with him is he refuses to accept that his behaviour is undesirable, there is no reasoning with him at all.

My therapist doesn't think I'm Boderline but says we all have traits of Boderline.

hpw · 15-09-2008, 02:58 AM

hey I was wondering if anyone has read any books about BPD? which one do you think is the best? I would like to read up on this since I have it

lauraw2693 · 15-09-2008, 03:04 AM

Not sure about that but don't read that Stop Walking on Eggshells book, is it just me or did anyone else find that completely rubbish? I'd like to know a better one as well if anyone has read a good one Xx

hpw · 15-09-2008, 03:15 AM

why is the walking on eggshells one bad? the doctors at the hospital told my mom she should buy that one and read it.

lauraw2693 · 15-09-2008, 03:53 AM

Yeah they said the same to my parents, my mum has it, I've only skimmed it to be honest but what I've read seems very simplistic and it seems to have confused my parents further rather than help them understand =/ Xx

blueprzm · 15-09-2008, 03:56 AM

thanks for the concern the hurricane has past and it moved far enough east that we just had some wind......but now there's a new issue James mom is coming down to take sis in law to the doctor and she wants to take Taylor(my daughter) for like 2 or 3 weeks for a visit.....which shouldn't be a big deal James hasn't seen her since he went out for work like 2 mos now......the first thing that went through my mind was they are conspiring to take my daughter i totally freaked on him over the phone......but James being James told me "Sondra stop you know every place i am going to be on my route you are coming up in 3 weeks anyway to see me" so i thought about it and he's right (he usually is ) and as much as I love her i could use a break.....but the thought is still in my head so i bought a couple of puzzles to help keep my mind occupied seems to be working so far

Stellata · 15-09-2008, 07:42 AM

The Angry Heart is a good book.
Also 'Managing emotions and overcoming self destructive habits' - long title, but a really good book.
They're both workbook style.

jenniferlea · 15-09-2008, 11:39 AM

I hate you dont leave is a good one, and BPD demistified is also a good one. If you go onto to amazon and type in the word borderline personality disorder loads of books will come up and as far as i know this is the best place to get books.

i tried bookshops and libraries but they only really do books on depression, bipolar and schizophrenia.

lauraw2693 · 15-09-2008, 05:11 PM

Cool beans thanks for the titles suggested, I'll definitely look them up ^-^ I've heard of I hate you don't leave before, someone told me that was good as well so might order that one for my mum... Did anyone else find the Walking on Eggshells one rubbish or was that just me?! Xx

Stellata · 15-09-2008, 05:12 PM

It's not very borderline friendly, let's put it that way.

whirlpools · 15-09-2008, 06:36 PM

i heard Lost in the Mirror is a good one. and from the reviews on Amazon it looks like a compassionate one too.

i liked Girl, Interrupted (the book). i know it's not exactly factual or medical but it was quite amusing in places, and did tell bits of what it's like to have BPD - the thought processes and stuff. i liked her Velocity/Viscosity bit and the bit where she talked about "thought your train was moving when you were sitting still" - partly because i never understood that bit in the film. you don't hear a whole lot about the paranoid/dissociative and slightly psychotic sides of BPD so it was good to hear it described.

Stellata · 15-09-2008, 06:40 PM

I agree, whirlpools. Near the beginning of the book of GI, she describes depersonalisation really well.

jenniferlea · 15-09-2008, 08:53 PM

Yes a good book i have that one too.

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