ahh Dr. Doyle is awesome :) yeah lots of people in Main House (and indeed, out of Main House, and, well, most of us really!) have traits of different personality issues, like bits of paranoia, a bit borderline, you know, stuff here and there. well they can help with it all.
i'm glad to hear people will be supporting you to fight the commissioners. i do hope you win.
Hey sorry to randomly interrupt, just thought I'd say hi. I've been diagnosed with BPD amongst other things and am not entirely sure if I agree or not, I mean I've read the criteria and it does sound like me but why does it have such a bad reputation? (No offence intended by the way!) Laura XxXx
"You might say its self-inflicted but you see that's contradictive - why on earth would anyone practice self destruction?"
I remember being diagnosed borderline and i spent a few weeks denying it and trying to convince everyone else they had go it wrong.
There are two DX, one is the american one and one is the european one so there might be some differences between the list of symptons.
i think being borderline gets bad press, like my socail worker and pschiatrist think i am dramatic and attention seeking. Mixed in with the serious threat that i really will commit suicide as i have nearly died twice already in the last few months.
sometimes i OD to self harm and sometimes i really mean to die.
i feel pretty hopeless these days like i am taking the access to nursing course at college but theres no point really cause they are not gonna accept me onto the nhs course cause of my DX.
I WISH I HAD NEVER BEEN DIAGNOSED.
oh doctor doyle is cool.she knows about everything.
Frantic efforts to avoid real or imagined abandonment. - Nope, not in any way. A pattern of unstable and intense interpersonal relationships characterized by alternating between extremes of idealization and devaluation. - Nope, I'm 21, been in a stable relationship for 8 years.
Identity disturbance: markedly and persistently unstable self-image or sense of self. - Not unstable. Low self-esteem, but chronic low self-esteem.
Impulsivity in at least two areas that are potentially self-damaging (e.g., promiscuous sex, eating disorders, binge eating, substance abuse, reckless driving). - Only one, binge eating
Recurrent suicidal behavior, gestures, threats, or self-mutilating behavior such as cutting, interfering with the healing of scars, or picking at oneself. - Yes
Affective instability due to a marked reactivity of mood (e.g., intense episodic dysphoria, irritability, or anxiety usually lasting a few hours and only rarely more than a few days). - Nope, depression and anxiety, moods last weeks.
Chronic feelings of emptiness, worthlessness. - Yes
Inappropriate anger or difficulty controlling anger (e.g., frequent displays of temper, constant anger, recurrent physical fights). - No, no anger.
Transient, stress-related paranoid ideation, delusions or severe dissociative symptoms - Have been delusional twice.
It just doesn't seem to fit. Is it just me being in denial? My husband doesn't agree with the diagnosis either.
Its all or nothing
And nothings all I ever get
Every time I turn it on
I burn it up and burn it out
i am not an expert but from what i have read in books some of them say that recurrent suicidal threats and behaviour can be such a strong sympton that this alone can count as you having bpd.
I would not worry though you have to be diagnosed first and that takes time and the assessments are very thorough.
If i was you i would try and stay away from diagnosis if you can cause everything seemed to change for me as soon as i was diagnosed.
I feel like i have got a mental terminal illness thats eating its inside out.
I have been in a serious relationship for nearly three years my longest yet and i find it really hard to relate to this.
My Pyschiatrist thinks I have it. I saw an ED Pyschiatrist today, and he asked me if its ever been mentioned to me. I'm waiting for a second opinion, as I don't agree with the diagnosis. I've never threatened suicide, and don't really have strong suicidal behaviour - I've only ever been seen at A&E twice- once for an overdose, and for suicidal thoughts another time. Thats hardly strong is it?
Its all or nothing
And nothings all I ever get
Every time I turn it on
I burn it up and burn it out
No your right it isnt a strong enough case, but what i do know is that they wont diagnose unless they are absoloutely sure, and they cant just say they think you have it you have to go through a proper assessment.
My advice to you is make sure you get an assessment off someone who knows properly about P.D. not just some pschiatrist who thinks he knows what its all about.
My diagnosis came from the P.D. service so i could hardly challenge it.
I know how you feel though i was quite angry when they suggested it to me.
I even came off all my meds,cancelled my appointments and told them to stick it where the sun dont shine.
Frantic efforts to avoid real or imagined abandonment. - Nope, not in any way. A pattern of unstable and intense interpersonal relationships characterized by alternating between extremes of idealization and devaluation. - Nope, I'm 21, been in a stable relationship for 8 years.
Identity disturbance: markedly and persistently unstable self-image or sense of self. - Not unstable. Low self-esteem, but chronic low self-esteem.
Impulsivity in at least two areas that are potentially self-damaging (e.g., promiscuous sex, eating disorders, binge eating, substance abuse, reckless driving). - Only one, binge eating
Recurrent suicidal behavior, gestures, threats, or self-mutilating behavior such as cutting, interfering with the healing of scars, or picking at oneself. - Yes
Affective instability due to a marked reactivity of mood (e.g., intense episodic dysphoria, irritability, or anxiety usually lasting a few hours and only rarely more than a few days). - Nope, depression and anxiety, moods last weeks.
Chronic feelings of emptiness, worthlessness. - Yes
Inappropriate anger or difficulty controlling anger (e.g., frequent displays of temper, constant anger, recurrent physical fights). - No, no anger.
Transient, stress-related paranoid ideation, delusions or severe dissociative symptoms - Have been delusional twice.
It just doesn't seem to fit. Is it just me being in denial? My husband doesn't agree with the diagnosis either.
This is why I think they must be right about me because I meet all of the criteria apart from one (the anger one). Is that why this disorder has a bad reputation, because of it being known for angry and unstable people?!
"You might say its self-inflicted but you see that's contradictive - why on earth would anyone practice self destruction?"
no i dont think its the anger part although it does not help, i should know my social worker and duty worker plus my psyciatrist were victim to this the other day.
From what i have read off other sights they can describe the borderline as manipulative. Some sights give really bad press of poeple with borderline.
Manipulative in the sense of threatened suicide.
In some websites borderline is also decribed as dramatic, whatever that may mean. Personally i dont see the difference between someone bipolar threatening suicide to someone who is borderline doing it.
I know from my own experience that the mental health services have become more rigid with me and have treated me differently since i was diagnosed borderline. I cant put my finger on what it is but i can feel it.
I can no longer get extra meds from either my psychiatrist or my GP anymore because of the serious threat of suicide by OD. from what i can make out they are trying to contain me within the community.
i think also its cause we are so unstable, we dont fit into this category of having long periods of stability. I know from my own experience that i could rule the world one hour and want to die the next.
I think the mental health services dont know how to control that.
i feel the same a lot that we all get tarred with the same brush. also a lot of it can be to do with dependency and attachment; a lot of people with BPD have attachment issues and for this reason the services can be reluctant to get involved. what i've found helps, is to be very respectful of boundaries - if they tell you what times you can phone, don't go outside those times. at the same time, make sure they're clear with you about boundaries, otherwise you won't know. and try to make sure you know what to do in a crisis. try to listen to them when they give advice too. if you're able to develop some of your own coping strategies (that are healthy) i have found they are more ready to support you and listen to you. it's really hard when you're in distress and in the throes of emotional instability, but if you can start doing it when you're not, it can really help.
not everyone with BPD expresses anger. i've read it be called "demure borderline" somewhere - it's where the person is unable to express - or sometimes even experience/recognise anger. it can be a huge problem because that anger then often becomes depression or it can come in the form of voices or delusions that are critical, cruel and dangerous.
i don't know why i said all that. i can't remember if it's relevant. my head is bad today lol. sorry. also my house smells like soup and it's really annoying.
p.s. quautia, are the ED services refusing to treat you because of the BPD? because i think that's unfair and it's not the same everywhere; i know people with BPD who are treated by ED services (at least, i believe they are). xxx
One of the criteria for Complex PTSD is excessive anger or extremely inhibited anger, and that they can alternate.
I have the attachment disorder bit of borderline, but all my other symptoms pretty much come under Complex PTSD.
I meet all criteria except the suicide self mutilation thing which is probably due to my narcissism....i am so stressed right now James isn't here this freakin hurricane is almost here.......it is taking every ounce of my self not to break down in tears
I've never got that, the manipulative behaviour for threatening suicide - people in the past have begged and begged me to open up, when I do thats what I get thrown back in my face! Is that just me? =/
Xx
"You might say its self-inflicted but you see that's contradictive - why on earth would anyone practice self destruction?"
