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Old 07-04-2011, 08:26 PM   #4721
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Yes, but a person who has given their life to Christ and hasnt been baptized isnt being obedient. Thats the first thing you're to do after giving your life to God, as shown in various accounts in Acts.



Every day the world is made a chance to change but i feel the same.
And I wonder why would i wait till i die to come alive?"
All alone the way she feels
Left alone to deal with all the pain-drenched sorrow relief



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Old 09-04-2011, 06:30 PM   #4722
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Hey everyone, I have a question I hope someone might be able to answer for me. Can you be a Christian without being baptised?
The man on the cross next to jesus went to heaven without being baptized. I would have yo say yes.




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If you can bounce high, bounce for her too,
Till she cry "Lover, gold-hatted, high-bouncing lover,
I must have you!"

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Old 09-04-2011, 07:27 PM   #4723
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^^ exactly. doesnt save you, nothing can be added to what Jesus did to save us, or it why would God the Son have come at all? Still, if you arent on the brink of death, need to do it. I love the wedding ring analogy, and the team jersey analogy...a ring doesnt make you married but you wear it to show you are...the first thing you do when you make the team is get the jersey...

*hugs to everyone*



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Old 09-04-2011, 08:25 PM   #4724
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Going to see the mental health pastor on Tuesday at 2 pm
kinda nervous about it i dont really like talking to people much and am unsure what am going to say
I want to ask if God love is unconditional even if i sin ... will he forgive me for my past and will he send me to hell for what i have done in my life





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Old 09-04-2011, 08:25 PM   #4725
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Thank you both for your help (:

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Old 09-04-2011, 09:28 PM   #4726
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Going to see the mental health pastor on Tuesday at 2 pm
kinda nervous about it i dont really like talking to people much and am unsure what am going to say
I want to ask if God love is unconditional even if i sin ... will he forgive me for my past and will he send me to hell for what i have done in my life
will be thinking of you on Tuesday xxx



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Old 10-04-2011, 04:20 PM   #4727
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Going to see the mental health pastor on Tuesday at 2 pm
kinda nervous about it i dont really like talking to people much and am unsure what am going to say
I want to ask if God love is unconditional even if i sin ... will he forgive me for my past and will he send me to hell for what i have done in my life
Hope you get an answer from him... If you were asking me, I would say of course he will forgive you, that's why Jesus died, to wash away our sin. He made us human, human nature is to screw things up, but you only have to say sorry for what you've done wrong and he forgives. Some people say if you were to sin and carry on sinning thinking it's ok, that it's wrong, but if you want and try to turn from it, that's all God wants.
Eph 1:7 'He is so rich in kindness that he purchased our freedom through the blood of his Son, and our sins are forgiven.'



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Old 11-04-2011, 02:29 AM   #4728
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Hey everyone, I have a question I hope someone might be able to answer for me. Can you be a Christian without being baptised?

JC to his apostle buds:

"John baptized with water but you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit"

The situations and rites are different after JC. He said himself he does away with the old law (external) and represents a new law "written on the hearts" (Internal)

Baptism is ok but the idea babies have to be baptized so they don't go to hell is pretty silly lol. There's a lot of rotten people that were baptized as well

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Old 11-04-2011, 02:31 AM   #4729
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yeah, baptism comes after you give your life to God. Dont forget the comission where Jesus says to tell everyone and baptize them



Every day the world is made a chance to change but i feel the same.
And I wonder why would i wait till i die to come alive?"
All alone the way she feels
Left alone to deal with all the pain-drenched sorrow relief



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Old 12-04-2011, 12:23 AM   #4730
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Hi there. I've just joined the forum and this is exactly the sort of thread I was wanting to see!

I'm currently in recovery from sh, and no longer count it as an 'addiction'. I'm a Christian and very interested in doing a contextual theology of sh/mental health. Bit of jargon there, contextual theology is something that means that "we can trust in a God who stays the same while humbly realizing that the theological answers we come up with today might be very helpful for us, but possibly don’t answer the questions for all time." (TheoDigital)

In other words you start with where people are now and reinterpret the bible/theology in that light. It comes from liberation/feminist/queer/black/disability theology. Fascinating subject.

I read an article which suggested that someone treating sh-ers view them as "Christas", as society's scapegoats, people who sh are those who do not fit into society, who society excludes. In that way similar to Jesus.

I'd also say that I don't think sh is a sin, in that Paul referred to the body in different ways (who will release me from this body of death?; I box my body and subdue it...etc) as well as being the temple of God. There are greater sins...sh often functions as a method of coping, as well as a method by which we gain control over our bodies...not a good way, like someone scratching their name in a cathedral beam - shows that it is theirs, and is better than scratching it on the altar.

Anyway seem to have got a bit confused, its late. But I'll check back on the thread and if anyone would like to pm/email me, please do.



Currently interested in Christian/biblical views of self-injury and how you relate faith to si...get in touch if you are interested in this too!


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Old 12-04-2011, 01:55 AM   #4731
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As far as self harm being wrong in Gods eyes, I think it is, but I think it's a minor sin compared to other things. For example I think lying about the self harm is worse than actually self harming. However, I think suicide is equal to murder in God's eyes, which is one reason I've restrained from doing that.

Although, something interesting I've noticed about myself. When I feel guilty for breaking God's commandments, it triggers me to self harm.

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Old 12-04-2011, 01:59 AM   #4732
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I think guilt in general triggers a lot of us to si.

Yeah, its a sin- we're suppossed to take care of our bodies, and turn to God for help and comfort- but as you said it's not the worst. Sin is still sin though, and every sin seperates us from God.

Maudlin- welcome and glad you're in recovery! :)



Every day the world is made a chance to change but i feel the same.
And I wonder why would i wait till i die to come alive?"
All alone the way she feels
Left alone to deal with all the pain-drenched sorrow relief



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Old 13-04-2011, 08:59 AM   #4733
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The meeting with the pastor went well ... we had a really good talk about things .
We are meeting again in a few weeks time and i will write down any questions or concerns i have for him.
Also found out about a mental health drop in i can go to on a Tuesday morning. see if i can go on Tuesday if i get up early enough.





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Old 13-04-2011, 10:03 AM   #4734
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Glad it went well for you Serenity.
I'm going to see my Pastor's wife again tonight. 2nd meeting with her. Working through a book called "Freedom in Christ". Started 2 weeks ago and I've had good and bad days over that time.
Everyone around me says they have started to see a difference already. Only difference I have noticed is when I have urges they are harder to fight, but then everyone is telling me that's because I'm letting go for good and Satan doesn't want me to so he's making the urges stronger.
I have got better at calling out for support during those times as well, asking for prayer support as well as going to see friends to see me through a bad hour or so.
Anyway, great news and glad you found another source of support on the Tuesday morning, hope you are able to attend even if only occassionally.
God Bless.
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Old 13-04-2011, 12:21 PM   #4735
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Serenity honey, I'm so glad your meeting went well! That's really great! Writing things down for next time is such a good idea too! I would keep paper n pencil handy so you can write them down as you think of them. How cool that you have this opportunity on Tuesdays as well! Maybe if you can get used to gettin up on time for it every day, you'll be able to go consistently. May just have to get to bed earlier. Hope you're havin a great day sweetie!

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Old 13-04-2011, 12:25 PM   #4736
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Liz, that's terrific hun! That shows such strength to reach out for help when you need it! Let us know how tonight's meeting goes.

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Old 13-04-2011, 08:49 PM   #4737
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even christians cut .

hey , i'm SK & been and SI'er for hmm ... 9 years now.
I was 'saved' when I was 6 but became devoted in 2007 .

i'm a youth leader & very open with the fact i'm not perfect .
I want to be a youth pastor & really break down the barriers about talking about stuff like this - the 'tough' stuff in church .
get people outta their comfort zones, and really take a look at reality .

my church is great for it , but i thank ALL of you who posted on here ...
you guys are true blessings .

so , really looking forward to talking to you guys ,
if you want add me on msn :

thebabygurl33@hotmail.com

or email me : thebabygurl33@gmail.com you can also email if you want my cell number & we can text :)

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Old 16-04-2011, 10:24 AM   #4738
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Morning All,
Hope you are having a blessed day.
Went to our church prayer meeting this morning. Bit of an early start but I'm told it's a good way to start the weekend.
I was wondering whether anyone else finds that when they are in meeting like prayer meetings or even in church the triggering thoughts get stronger and harder to ignore?
What do people do about this? Just keep trying to ignore it, which is what I did this morning. Or do people have other ways of tackling this.
Would be interested to know so that I can be prepared next time.
God Bless
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Old 16-04-2011, 04:00 PM   #4739
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hey roze. that is really awesome what you are doing. i am in school right now for youth ministry and it is such a blessing to hear you say that even youth pastors struggle with cutting.

i came on here to ask for prayers....right now at school i am under a bit of stress and i really want to cut...specifically my arm...bc i havent been able to cut there in a while and i know that would give me relief.....i know i shouldnt bc it is getting warmer out and i dont want to be stuck in long sleeves....
so please pray that i will be strong enough to let God pull me through



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Old 16-04-2011, 04:04 PM   #4740
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I'm prayin for you too Ashleigh!

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