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Old 16-05-2008, 09:41 PM   #1
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Medication Cocktail

That best describes what I'm on right now. Now its depakote, ativan, welbutrin, zoloft, seroquel, and lamictal.

I'm on a 2 day medical leave and I think after the holiday I'll be back for Family Leave for a few weeks.

I can't remember things for **** and every little thing seems to tick me off. My doc thinks the hospital would be a good place for me right now but I'm not suicidal (haven't even SH'd in over a month and if my last experiences with hospitals are true then I reall don't want to go.

BTW I'm not new to the vets, I just rarely post. Usually I'm in chat!

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Old 16-05-2008, 10:13 PM   #2
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Could you suggest to your doctor that you're not keen to go to hospital (although I wouldn't say rule it out yet) but could you have your meds reviewed... if memory problems are an issue, he may be bale to find one that doesn't have that as a side-effect.

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Old 17-05-2008, 03:02 AM   #3
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I had a HORRID reaction to Seroquel, may mean nothing for you...butr i will DIE before taking that med again. It sent me totally psychotic, my doc had me ruashed to psych ER and i was put IP till it came down, or whatever they gave me to counter-act did the trick....it was frightemning beyond belief....I've BENN psychotis before, a few times and this was 500 % worse.
I dont know if thats of any use to you...sorry if its useless crap...i just HATE that drug!!!!!!!

Check out www.drugs.com, (i know , stupid name) but it ios a site that ranges form beginners (normal language to concise). I SWEAR by this site!! So does my pharmacist!

You have to join but no cost, and it will allow you to check for med interactions and food interactions...yes i know...the DOC is MEANT to do that....but my doc has nearly poisoned me 3 times by putting me on 2 interracting drugs and only Rudy (my pharacist caught it..it was seriously lethal!)

It's VERY in formattive and there's a section where you can save your drug lost and add/remove as needed, and as said check the interractions...
PLS give it a try. I KNOW it isnt your job...but sadly it seems to have BECOME that way.

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[meant to add, the seroquel was a DEFINITE , negative interraction between another drug i was on; they are NOT meant to be combined!]

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Old 17-05-2008, 03:11 AM   #4
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Drug interaction results for the following 6 drug(s):
ativan (lorazepam)
depakote (divalproex sodium)
lamictal (lamotrigine)
seroquel (quetiapine)
Wellbutrin (buPROPion)
zoloft (sertraline)


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Interactions between your selected drugs

lamictal (lamotrigine) and depakote (divalproex sodium) (Major Drug-Drug)
ADJUST DOSE: Coadministration with valproic acid has been shown to significantly increase the plasma concentrations of lamotrigine and the risk of potentially serious and life-threatening rash induced by lamotrigine, including Stevens-Johnson syndrome and toxic epidermal necrolysis. Severe, disabling tremors and ataxia have also been reported. The mechanism is competitive inhibition of lamotrigine glucuronidation by valproic acid. Pharmacokinetic data indicate that valproic acid can more than double the elimination half-life of lamotrigine, whether given with or without enzyme-inducing antiepileptic drugs (EIAEDs) such as carbamazepine, phenytoin, and phenobarbital. In a study of eight patients treated with lamotrigine, half of whom also received EIAEDs, valproic acid 200 mg/day and 1000 mg/day (each for 3 weeks) increased the dose-corrected area under the plasma concentration-time curve (AUC) of lamotrigine by an average of 84% and 160%, respectively. Corresponding lamotrigine half-life increased by an average of 37% and 150%. Additive or synergistic pharmacodynamic effects may also contribute to the interaction, which some investigators suggest is responsible in some patients for enhanced antiepileptic efficacy beyond that attained from mere increases in plasma lamotrigine levels. Lamotrigine appears to have negligible to minor effects on the pharmacokinetics of valproic acid.

MANAGEMENT: When coadministered with valproic acid, the dosage of lamotrigine should be half that required in the absence of valproic acid. Patients should be advised to promptly notify their physician if they experience early manifestations of hypersensitivity such as fever, angioedema, and lymphadenopathy, even if a rash is not evident. Lamotrigine should be discontinued if an alternative etiology for these symptoms cannot be established. Likewise, the drug should be discontinued at the first sign of rash, unless the rash is clearly not drug-related.


Wellbutrin (buPROPion) and zoloft (sertraline) (Major Drug-Drug)
MONITOR CLOSELY: The use of bupropion is associated with a dose-related risk of seizures. The estimated incidence of seizures is approximately 0.1% at dosages up to 300 mg/day and 0.4% at dosages between 300 to 450 mg/day, but increases almost tenfold between 450 mg and 600 mg/day. The risk may also be increased during coadministration with selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRI antidepressants or anorectics), monoamine oxidase inhibitors, neuroleptic agents, central nervous system stimulants, opioids, tricyclic antidepressants, other tricyclic compounds (e.g., cyclobenzaprine, phenothiazines), systemic steroids, and/or any substance that can reduce the seizure threshold (e.g., carbapenems, cholinergic agents, fluoroquinolones, interferons, chloroquine, mefloquine, lindane, theophylline). These agents are often individually epileptogenic and may have additive effects when combined.

MANAGEMENT: Extreme caution is advised if bupropion is administered with any substance that can reduce the seizure threshold, particularly in the elderly and in patients with a history of seizures or other risk factors for seizures (e.g., head trauma; brain tumor; severe hepatic cirrhosis; metabolic disorders; CNS infections; excessive use of alcohol or sedatives; addiction to opiates, cocaine, or stimulants; diabetes treated with oral hypoglycemic agents or insulin). Bupropion as well as concomitant medications should be initiated at the lower end of the dose range and titrated gradually if feasible. The total dose of bupropion should generally not exceed 450 mg/day (or 150 mg every other day in patients with severe hepatic cirrhosis). Bupropion should be discontinued and not restarted in patients who experience a seizure during treatment.


Wellbutrin (buPROPion) and seroquel (quetiapine) (Major Drug-Drug)
MONITOR CLOSELY: The use of bupropion is associated with a dose-related risk of seizures. The estimated incidence of seizures is approximately 0.1% at dosages up to 300 mg/day and 0.4% at dosages between 300 to 450 mg/day, but increases almost tenfold between 450 mg and 600 mg/day. The risk may also be increased during coadministration with selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRI antidepressants or anorectics), monoamine oxidase inhibitors, neuroleptic agents, central nervous system stimulants, opioids, tricyclic antidepressants, other tricyclic compounds (e.g., cyclobenzaprine, phenothiazines), systemic steroids, and/or any substance that can reduce the seizure threshold (e.g., carbapenems, cholinergic agents, fluoroquinolones, interferons, chloroquine, mefloquine, lindane, theophylline). These agents are often individually epileptogenic and may have additive effects when combined.

MANAGEMENT: Extreme caution is advised if bupropion is administered with any substance that can reduce the seizure threshold, particularly in the elderly and in patients with a history of seizures or other risk factors for seizures (e.g., head trauma; brain tumor; severe hepatic cirrhosis; metabolic disorders; CNS infections; excessive use of alcohol or sedatives; addiction to opiates, cocaine, or stimulants; diabetes treated with oral hypoglycemic agents or insulin). Bupropion as well as concomitant medications should be initiated at the lower end of the dose range and titrated gradually if feasible. The total dose of bupropion should generally not exceed 450 mg/day (or 150 mg every other day in patients with severe hepatic cirrhosis). Bupropion should be discontinued and not restarted in patients who experience a seizure during treatment.


ativan (lorazepam) and depakote (divalproex sodium) (Moderate Drug-Drug)
GENERALLY AVOID: One case series has suggested that benzodiazepines may amplify the teratogenic effects of valproate in the offspring of epileptic women. Both drugs individually have been associated with adverse effects to the fetus. Another study has suggested that valproate may displace diazepam from plasma protein binding sites and inhibit its metabolism; however, the clinical significance has not been established. Other benzodiazepines may interact with valproate in a similar fashion.

MANAGEMENT: Both valproate and benzodiazepines should be avoided during pregnancy unless the potential benefits outweigh the risks to the fetus. In other patients, close observation for clinical evidence of benzodiazepine toxicity (excessive sedation) is recommended if valproate and a benzodiazepine must be used together.


ativan (lorazepam) and Wellbutrin (buPROPion) (Moderate Drug-Drug)
MONITOR: Excessive use or abrupt discontinuation of benzodiazepines and other sedatives after chronic ingestion may precipitate seizures in patients receiving bupropion. Conversely, bupropion may antagonize the central pharmacologic effects of sedatives. Bupropion can cause agitation, anxiety, and insomnia and has been shown to decrease the sedative effect of diazepam in healthy volunteers given single doses of the drugs.

MANAGEMENT: Although sedatives may be prescribed to treat agitation, anxiety, and insomnia associated with bupropion use, patients should be alerted to the possibility of an increased risk of seizures during excessive exposure to these drugs. Patients should not attempt to alter the dosages or discontinue the medications on their own without consulting with their physician. The use of bupropion is contraindicated in patients undergoing abrupt discontinuation of sedatives.


ativan (lorazepam) and zoloft (sertraline) (Moderate Drug-Drug)
MONITOR: Central nervous system- and/or respiratory-depressant effects may be additively or synergistically increased in patients taking multiple drugs that cause these effects, especially in elderly or debilitated patients.

MANAGEMENT: During concomitant use of these drugs, patients should be monitored for potentially excessive or prolonged CNS and respiratory depression. Ambulatory patients should be counseled to avoid hazardous activities requiring complete mental alertness and motor coordination until they know how these agents affect them, and to notify their physician if they experience excessive or prolonged CNS effects that interfere with their normal activities.


ativan (lorazepam) and lamictal (lamotrigine) (Moderate Drug-Drug)
MONITOR: Central nervous system- and/or respiratory-depressant effects may be additively or synergistically increased in patients taking multiple drugs that cause these effects, especially in elderly or debilitated patients.

MANAGEMENT: During concomitant use of these drugs, patients should be monitored for potentially excessive or prolonged CNS and respiratory depression. Ambulatory patients should be counseled to avoid hazardous activities requiring complete mental alertness and motor coordination until they know how these agents affect them, and to notify their physician if they experience excessive or prolonged CNS effects that interfere with their normal activities.


Wellbutrin (buPROPion) and lamictal (lamotrigine) (Moderate Drug-Drug)
MONITOR: Central nervous system- and/or respiratory-depressant effects may be additively or synergistically increased in patients taking multiple drugs that cause these effects, especially in elderly or debilitated patients.

MANAGEMENT: During concomitant use of these drugs, patients should be monitored for potentially excessive or prolonged CNS and respiratory depression. Ambulatory patients should be counseled to avoid hazardous activities requiring complete mental alertness and motor coordination until they know how these agents affect them, and to notify their physician if they experience excessive or prolonged CNS effects that interfere with their normal activities.


zoloft (sertraline) and lamictal (lamotrigine) (Moderate Drug-Drug)
MONITOR: Central nervous system- and/or respiratory-depressant effects may be additively or synergistically increased in patients taking multiple drugs that cause these effects, especially in elderly or debilitated patients.

MANAGEMENT: During concomitant use of these drugs, patients should be monitored for potentially excessive or prolonged CNS and respiratory depression. Ambulatory patients should be counseled to avoid hazardous activities requiring complete mental alertness and motor coordination until they know how these agents affect them, and to notify their physician if they experience excessive or prolonged CNS effects that interfere with their normal activities.


Wellbutrin (buPROPion) and depakote (divalproex sodium) (Moderate Drug-Drug)
MONITOR: Central nervous system- and/or respiratory-depressant effects may be additively or synergistically increased in patients taking multiple drugs that cause these effects, especially in elderly or debilitated patients.

MANAGEMENT: During concomitant use of these drugs, patients should be monitored for potentially excessive or prolonged CNS and respiratory depression. Ambulatory patients should be counseled to avoid hazardous activities requiring complete mental alertness and motor coordination until they know how these agents affect them, and to notify their physician if they experience excessive or prolonged CNS effects that interfere with their normal activities.


zoloft (sertraline) and depakote (divalproex sodium) (Moderate Drug-Drug)
MONITOR: Central nervous system- and/or respiratory-depressant effects may be additively or synergistically increased in patients taking multiple drugs that cause these effects, especially in elderly or debilitated patients.

MANAGEMENT: During concomitant use of these drugs, patients should be monitored for potentially excessive or prolonged CNS and respiratory depression. Ambulatory patients should be counseled to avoid hazardous activities requiring complete mental alertness and motor coordination until they know how these agents affect them, and to notify their physician if they experience excessive or prolonged CNS effects that interfere with their normal activities.


depakote (divalproex sodium) and seroquel (quetiapine) (Moderate Drug-Drug)
MONITOR: Central nervous system- and/or respiratory-depressant effects may be additively or synergistically increased in patients taking multiple drugs that cause these effects, especially in elderly or debilitated patients.

MANAGEMENT: During concomitant use of these drugs, patients should be monitored for potentially excessive or prolonged CNS and respiratory depression. Ambulatory patients should be counseled to avoid hazardous activities requiring complete mental alertness and motor coordination until they know how these agents affect them, and to notify their physician if they experience excessive or prolonged CNS effects that interfere with their normal activities.


ativan (lorazepam) and seroquel (quetiapine) (Moderate Drug-Drug)
MONITOR: The oral clearance of a single dose of lorazepam has been reported to be decreased by 20% when taken concomitantly with quetiapine. The mechanism of action is unknown. Additionally, quetiapine may enhance the CNS effects of lorazepam.

MANAGEMENT: The clinician may consider closer clinical monitoring of the patient for lorazepam toxicity if quetiapine and lorazepam are coadministered. Patients should be advised to notify their physician if they experience symptoms such as excessive sedation, confusion, dizziness, or incoordination.



Other drugs that your selected drugs interact with

• There are 1091 other drugs known to interact with ativan (lorazepam)
• There are 1251 other drugs known to interact with depakote (divalproex sodium)
• There are 868 other drugs known to interact with lamictal (lamotrigine)
• There are 1736 other drugs known to interact with seroquel (quetiapine)
• There are 1709 other drugs known to interact with Wellbutrin (buPROPion)
• There are 1724 other drugs known to interact with zoloft (sertraline)

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Old 19-05-2008, 03:42 AM   #5
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I'm on welbutrin and holy crap it's a lifesaver.

Seriously.

On the other hand, there were a TON of drugs that just didn't work for me. Work with your doctor to find something. Good luck with that.



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Old 19-05-2008, 04:08 AM   #6
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I didn't get a chance to read all of what Romp posted but before you get too freaked out by that, Wellbutin lowers the seizure threshold, which means it's easier to have a seizure. What Romp found says that with the lamictal and seroquel you are on there may be even more of a risk. HOWEVER, both ativan and depakote are anti-seizure medications, so those essentially can cancel each other out, so there isn't as great of a risk as it may appear.

The first warning says that the depakote can raise the levers of lamictal - your doctor may have done this on purpose - some do. I can't think of any other drug combinations off the top of my head, but sometimes a doctor will prescribe a "helper medication" that makes the first medication work better, or stronger.

One of the other interactions that is listed is sedation. In fact, it looks like they are saying that every single combination has a risk for sedation, which i'm guessing is more of a liability thing rather then a definite fact. Some of these may really cause sedation if they are taken together, like the seroquel and ativan. I'm guessing that your doctor has probably (hopefully) given you instructions on to when to take the medications that will decrease the likely hood of sedation. I'm guessing you take the seroquel before bed? And probably the depakote and wellbutrin in the morning? Or maybe the wellbutrin twice a day? Your dosing schedule should be organized in such a way to minimize the interactions between the medications.

Being really hypersensitive to things that annoy you and having a hard time remembering things are almost definitely side effects of the meds.

While I know that hospital is a scary thing, I think it may be good for you. Even if you aren't suicidal and haven't been SIing, I think your beds could probably be better adjusted so that you are on fewer meds, but you still feel ok. If you are in hospital and they do this for you it's a much more controld environment and they can keep an eye on you because when you have a major medication overhaul things can get worse before they get better.



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