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Old 15-01-2008, 11:29 PM   #1
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Caged Children

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These poor children who already have mental and physical disabilities are being kept in cages with no mental stimulation. They have been abandoned by their families because they cannot cope and are now living like this.

What do you think of this? How does it make you feel?

Personally, i hate this. This really makes me angry as i have two disabled brothers myself and i would never put them through what these children are going through. They are people and should not be treated like animals in a zoo.



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Old 15-01-2008, 11:34 PM   #2
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I watched a documentary about mentally ill Bulgarian children that were just shoved in a big house and basically left to die. They weren't looked after by the employees and just left in their beds to cry until they died really or they just sat on chairs all day and rocked.Also the teenage girls were supervised in the showers and when they got dressed by male staff and the male staff also beat the teenage boys.
It disgusts me.

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Old 15-01-2008, 11:43 PM   #3
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Gosh. I really don't have much to say other than it looks and sounds horrific. I think it's disgusting.



"After a while, she said, the captive would simply become compliant and resigned to their fate, because their spirit was broken."


To break a child's spirit is one of the worst things you can possibly do I believe, to allow themselves to resign into a fate of their life which they know they can't change.



"He was sitting upright with his head bowed. He barely moved. Around him were just blank walls and the iron bars of his cage. There was nothing to stimulate his mind, no colourful pictures or posters. The cage was his world."


It just seems like an image statement, that "those who were not considered perfect in body and mind by the state are hidden away." And although i've already said, I don't think there's any other way to put it than disgusting.

It's genuine discrimination against someone becasue of how they look and act, and this discrimination causes the chidren to live lives of blankness, or simply just not lives at all. Gosh.



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Old 15-01-2008, 11:48 PM   #4
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i watched the Bulgarian one too and i cried so much.
it is disgusting, i hate the way my brothers were treated at their residential home but it was nowhere near as bad as this. I just want to go get them all and bring them home with me.



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Old 16-01-2008, 07:23 PM   #5
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it made me feel sick





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Old 17-01-2008, 02:20 AM   #6
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I also saw the Bulgarian thing. The government I think had promised to address it, but a year later had not done anything.

There was a foster home in Ohio that kept it's mentally ill kids in small cages at night and in a cattle stall/box when they misbehaved.

why is the world so ****ed?

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Old 17-01-2008, 10:19 PM   #7
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^ no idea...
but something needs to get sorted.



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Old 17-01-2008, 10:36 PM   #8
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September 13, 2005
Children found locked in cages in rural Ohio

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The children, aged from one to 14, were discovered locked in nine cages on Friday evening after a social worker caught a glimpse of the one of the cages on a visit to the house in Clarksfield Township, Ohio.
The cages, which are less than one metre high and one metre deep, were alarmed and some of them were blocked with heavy furniture. The children, who on Monday were handed over to foster homes, have various disabilities, including autism.
Sharen and Mike Gravelle, the couple responsible for the children, who are all either adopted or foster children, have denied abusing or neglecting them. According to the Huron County prosecutor, Russell Leffler, the couple claim that a psychiatrist recommended that they place the children in cages.
<!--#include file="m63-article-related-attachements.html"--><!-- Call Wide Article Attachment Module --><!--TEMPLATE:call file="wideArticleAttachment.jsp" /-->"The impression that we got was that they felt it was OK," said Lieutenant Randy Sommers, one of the police investigators.
Mr Sommers added that police believed the children were forced to sleep in the cages, which were stacked in two rows on the second story of the house. According to Mr Sommers, one of the children said he had slept in a cage for three years.
So far, no criminal charges have been filed against Mr and Mrs Gravelle. Officials from the Ohio Department of Job and Family Services placed the children, who are not thought to be malnourished, in the care of four foster families yesterday.
Mr and Mrs Gravelle appeared at the hearing at Huron County Juvenile Court and a woman who identified herself as Mrs Gravelle's mother said the children were happy and loved.
"This year they have played and had fun and laughed like no other children have, which they have never been able to do," the woman said.
The case bears an unhappy resemblance to the abuse of a 17-year-old boy discovered in Ohio in March. Investigators found that a couple kept their adopted teenage son in a tiny bed, which they had placed in a locked cage.
Police found that the boy, who weighed 3 1/2 stone, had been prescribed the crib by a doctor when he was much younger.

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Old 17-01-2008, 10:37 PM   #9
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This just makes me cry and hate the world more




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Old 18-01-2008, 04:25 PM   #10
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I just don't understand how people can treat children like that.
I've seen footage on the news, and it's almost unbelievable!
The world and the people in it can be so cruel at times.



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Old 18-01-2008, 09:09 PM   #11
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It's utterly disgusting.
simple as.

I don't even want to get into it.



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Old 18-01-2008, 10:29 PM   #12
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I cried just reading what everyone's said.
It makes me feel physically sick.
It's horrible and plain wrong.






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Old 18-01-2008, 10:46 PM   #13
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OMG.... That is HORRIBLE!!!! I tell you something if I was other there I would take all those children and build my own care home for them..... For crying out loud would the doctors and that like to be put in cages like that.... I DONT BLOODY THNK SO.....

Those poor poor children :(.... This has really made me angry now!!! That isnt fair!!!



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Old 19-01-2008, 03:09 AM   #14
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We hardly ever adequately care for our handicapped (or handicapable if you prefer) people. Whether mentally or physically handicapped...they are historically largely misunderstood.

Caring for these people on a daily basis is really hard. There is a decent amount of support in most areas, but it is never enough.

That said...there is no excuse for anyone to be treated in those ways. It's just easier to do so to children and to the handicapped.
We don't spend enough time finding ways to help and support these children and adults. Usually people are not aware of all the troubles unless they have a personal experience with such.

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Old 19-01-2008, 03:48 AM   #15
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Old 19-01-2008, 04:51 AM   #16
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WTF??? thats ****ing sick! those poor children. THIS IS TORTURE. what kind of sick **** would think this is ok? and why did they just figure out a year ago that this wasent ok?

I want to say more, this just makes me so sad. how could someone do this?

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Old 21-01-2008, 02:19 PM   #17
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I hate seeing things like this on the TV, how hard is it for them to at least provide the children with some care, attention, and stimulation?





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Old 22-01-2008, 08:29 PM   #18
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sorry to post again. can someone tell me more about this? i have been thinking about this alot sience i last posted, i had never heard of this before. this really upsets me.

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Old 22-01-2008, 08:47 PM   #19
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I have two disabled brothers and yes, it can be really difficult & its hard work but i do it for them. They didnt ask to be like this, one even says that he hates his disability, wishes he was normal. He wants a family, to live independently & drive etc and although we know he cant do that, we tell him it is possible and help him to make steps towards independence. my other brother could give a **** what people think of him, he's happy and active and deals with his disability but they are like this because they have the mental and physical stimulation, they have had an appropriate education and have a social life.
They do have times where they can be aggressive and even violent but it is because that is the only way they feel they can communicate how they feel.
The caged children could have had a life like my brothers but people just dont seem to have the time for them. At college there are a couple of girls who talk about people with disabilities and say they should be locked up...it makes me so angry.
i think i should introduce them to my brothers, whatdya think?
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thats just so wrong. my god.







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