Today I saw my psychiatrist. I still haven't been taking my medication because the hospital and government are trying to poison me; I really cannot take that stuff.
The meeting was between me, the psychiatrist and my CPN. He asked about everything lately, the thoughts I'd been having. He called it "paranoia" and used the word psychotic a couple of times.
Essentially i've been given until friday lunchtime, when my CPN rings me to "cooperate" and take my medication otherwise (and i'll break down his long winded speech about keeping myself and the public safe and having a duty of care into one sentence) i'll be sectioned and have compulsory medication via injections.
How is this fair? I have the choice of taking this poison, or being in hospital for what he said could be a few weeks or longer. I have a couple of questions, if anybody is able to answer them;
* What happens if I do not comply, and ignore the phone calls from my CPN and generally cut off contact with them?
* Can they really force medication on me like that if I were in hospital and refused to take whatever they tried to give me?
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Chris, sweetheart, as much as it pains me to say, if you do ignore their phonecalls etc. it'll give them more reason to section you, 'cause they'll see you as 'unco-operative'. And as for the medication...I'm afraid they can do that on higher sections [which I'm guessing you'll be on].
Do you think maybe you could just try and take the medication yourself? Try and ignore the thing that's telling you they're poisoning you; they just want to help you, they just want what's best.
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The only time you will find real light is when you're searching in the dark..
*cuddles*
Chris, sweetheart, as much as it pains me to say, if you do ignore their phonecalls etc. it'll give them more reason to section you, 'cause they'll see you as 'unco-operative'. And as for the medication...I'm afraid they can do that on higher sections [which I'm guessing you'll be on].
Do you think maybe you could just try and take the medication yourself? Try and ignore the thing that's telling you they're poisoning you; they just want to help you, they just want what's best.
xx
I've cooperated with everything so far but I don't see why I should be given such a choice, I feel so trapped.
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Originally Posted by Crazy Rabbit Lady
If you ignore the calls then most likely they will send the police round and they may also come to your house themselves to section you (this is what happened to me and it's truly horrific to deal with).
You are not taking the meds because you are ill and under a section they can force you to take the meds.
What worries you about it being poison? Is there anyway you could maybe find a way to take them? My GP wants to kill me and prescribes me poison too, but it looks like a normal prescription. Only the pharmacists he knows can read the codes he has hidden in the prescription so I take the prescription to pharmacies far away so he doesn't know them. Is there any option like that that could help you feel safer about them?
I don't want the police around, that would be embarassing. Would they send an ambulance or the police?
And i'm not ill, I've tried explaining this to them.
The voice has told me it's poison, I don't know who's involved so I don't know where it would be safe to get anything from. I pretty much gave up hope anyway, this started while I was taking a neuroleptic and SSRIs haven't helped my mood at all in the past.
If they were going to section you and couldnt contact you, they would send the police round to your house and as said above an ASW, and probably one or two doctors ( two doctors must sign to section you, but you could see one and then another when you were taken to the ward).
If you are under section, they can force you to have treatment against your wishes, if they believe it is in your best interests. So yes, under section, you would be forced to take medication in hospital.
I really would implore you not to get sectioned! Sectioning can really, really screw things up in terms of your long term future. It also means that they can keep you as long as they see fit, whereas if you were a voluntry patient, you would have more control over when you could go home.
. I understand it must be very frightening for you feeling that your medication is poisoned. But what if you tried taking it and then if you were scared it had posioned you, go to the doctors and get them to check it for you? How will you know for sure if its poisoned if you dont try it? And trying one wont do you any harm at all? Is there any one you trust who could give you your medication and then look after you and make sure you are well after?
As for not telling them you're not taking your medication- trust me, they'll know because Ive been there before. Last time I was admitted, my social worker phoned my mum and was like yeh we know shes been lying about taking her meds.
this happened to my best friend..i was in hospital at the time and it was horrible hearing her scream! she only got inject ed twoce and then started taking it again because of how horrible it is being helddown and ijected against your will! please try and take it huni! it must be horrible going thru that and i know she never wants to go thru that again!- althought i know its hard if you feel they are poising you!! o i wish i could help! i wish they would all leave you alone! hugssss
i have been sectioned twice and have been told it means you cant go to the united states or ausstralia (i havent tried so dont know if its true) its also really hard to get any personal insurance! and you are ment to declare it when getting a job and stuff (i dont- but i should)
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Last edited by Sunshine : 09-07-2008 at 03:45 PM.
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If you are under section, you lose a lot of rights- like you cant apply for a passport if you are going abroad I believe. It will have to go on all your job applications, college applications etc. I have just been interviewed by occupational health for a university place and I said I'd been admitted and the first question was " was it under section?" Also you may not be allwed unsupervised leave from hospital under section. And it also makes any insurance costs very high for you in the future. The way my social worker talked to me about it was " we're damn well not going to let you go ahead and kill yourself, and you might not see that you have any future now. But trust me, you are going to have a future and if you let us section you, its going to be a bloody difficult one."
* I looked up the passport thing and from what I understand that only applies if you're under certain sections or are considered not to have the "capacity". But I still think it can make life awkward for you attempting to gain entrance to certain countires.
I can't believe all that goes against you in future.. even if you're well again?
I might agree to take medication on the terms my psychiatrist gets me a different medication, lets me throw away what I have and can get it from the pharmacy I want to get it from.
They won't look at putting you on a short section, it will be a hefty section, probably a 2 or 3 (28 days or 6 months), both of which can be very damaging.
Why would they do it for so long.. there's nothing wrong with me
i was on section 2 (28 days) which is only a month but it did really effect me! whenever i see someone who looks like one of thenurses i have a panick attack and certain fire alarms sound like the panick alarm..which makes me have flash backs! it is very upsetting! please try and take it!
my friend (who was injected) was on the 6 month one! and they use it as a precusion so they if you stop again they can save time really..not nice!
the changing meds is a really good idea though! ask for that!
Part of me wanted to be in hospital briefly, because I really don't feel safe at home at the moment towards myself or others. But I do not want to be sectioned, and I doubt it would be voluntary because they said they want to keep me out of hospital but that they would take me in if I didn't cooperate. I can't imagine being in there for weeks to months on end.
And if they even dared to try and come close to be with a needle they wouldn't get the chance.
They have there ways of injecting you.
Honey, do whatever it takes for you to feel safe, but you NEED to take your medication. It's for the best. And you may seem apphrehensive about it, but there will be consqeunces if you don't, so it's at least worth a try, right?
If it gets to a situation where they are considering sectioning you there should always be the opportunity to go in voluntarily. With me it was " this is the situation: both your GP and I ( my social worker) are willing to sign section papers today. I want you to think very carefully because it will realy mess things up for you if we do. Will you agree to voluntry admission or shall I begin the sectioning process?" So you see, the option should always be there. As said above, the most important thing is your safety and so you should do whatever is necessary to allow you to be safe. Hospital is not the easy option, but its a practical one if you dont feel safe at home.
If you agree to voluntry admission, there is much less chance of it being "weeks and months on end" as you put it, because you have more control over when you can leave.
Well I spoke to my CPN on the phone this morning and agreed I would take a different medication if I could get it from the doctor myself, so he's going to discuss with my psychiatrist and get back to me later.
My CPN contacted me a moment ago and said the psychiatrist has instructed that I continue with my current anti-psychotic. He offered me a different antipsychotic when we met just yesterday, yet now he won't change it.
I have less than 24 hours left now, and I cannot take this medication. I feel helpless, and tomorrow they're going to completely strip me of my freedom and stick me in hospital.
ask for that!
