Pictures Posted In The Picture Thread
 

Ok the only way i am allowing this thread to be kept open is if we are civil and if we dont flame each other or get out of hand. So because of the recent thing on the picture board and the thread created to post your random photos and someone be asked to take there photo down because of the fact they have a bandage on their arm. The rules state the following

Please do not share any images or videos that go against any of the terms and conditions of posting. This includes images / videos of ANY injuries, including self harm, open wounds, bruising, broken bones, and burns. Triggering content such as blood, SI 'tools' or suicide scenes are also prohibited, as is the posting of an image or video that automatically links to other images/videos that breach these conditions (eg - some You Tube videos). In addition to this, you will not share any images or videos that could encourage eating disorders, or any image deemed to be 'thinspiration'.

For example : "look at my new scar : ", "this picture is a bit racist but damn funny - take a look :" pictures/avatars/signatures/videos containing pictures of blood, open wounds, suicide or 'tools/blades'.


i dont have anything against bandages just like someone said it might not even be from self harm. so what do you guys think about photos with new scars and banadages being up?.

It really doesn't bother me if people post pics and they had a bandage on.

its ok to have *trigg* scars showing or whatever but not a bandage? i dont think that is very fair but thats my opinion :)

AS LONG AS THE PHOTO ISNT TAKEN TO SHOW OFF ANY WOUNDS THEN I DONT SEE WHY IT SHOULDNT BE ALLOWED.... EG, MY DAY OUT *TRIGGER FOR BANDAGED ARM*

AS LONG AS WE ARE WARNED AND THE PICTURE ISNT POSTED TO GLAMOURISE WOUNDS

i would rather see a pisture of a bandage than see a picture of a gaping wound.

Its a self harm website, with a picture forum.. what can you expect?

as long as everything is labelled properly, then fine.

I don't have a problem with having bandages and the such showing.

If a rule was in place which stopped photos with dressings being allowed to be posted, would photos of injuries which were caused in accidents, e.g. if someone broke a bone in a fall or anything like that, be allowed? Because I'm not sure whether you would be able to see the difference, the poster could easily say that their injuries were caused in an accident because no one would be able to prove otherwise.

That probably doesn't make a lot of sense >.<

But yeah, I think the rules regarding posting pictures and stuff are fine as they are, and I don't have a problem with any photos that have been posted.

I think that if someone wants to post a picture, and they happen to have a banadage on, they should still be allowed to post. It has to be better than having visible wounds, yus?
If I broke my arm, and had a picture of me (that showed my arm in a plaster cast) should I be allowed to post it?
Maybe not everyone can deal with seeing bandages on someone, but in my honest oppinion, tough. Look at the title of the thread, if it says "may be triggering" for whatever reason, and you dont want to risk getting triggered....DONT LOOK!
Seeing bandages on someone, in a picture to me is the same as seeing them on someone whilst out and about. Would you go up to someone and say "Excuse me. Seeing your banages upsets me, and makes me feel bad. Could you please keep them covered when out of the house?"
And RYL is a website that deals with SH/mental health issues/ED etc. There is bound to be things in here that not everyone likes/might upset some people.
I guess to me, the main issue I've seen here is people not using common sense. If you think it might trigger you/make you feel more triggered than before, dont risk looking at it. If you do look and it makes you feel worse, stop looking. Dont slate other members unnecersairily. (sp)

My point is...pictures with bandages/new scars are fine. Open wounds etc. not so fine.

Ok..so rant over.

Well a picture was shown recently of someone going to their prom on crutches. That quite clearly showed that they had some form of injury, why would a bandage/cast/sling be any different?

I think the thing with not posting fresh wounds is because of the triggering aspect of seeing blood and to try and avoid competitiveness regarding stitches and things.

I guess I don't understand how a bandage could be offensive. If she was wearing arm warmers the wounds would be hidden and exactly the same amount of flesh would be covered. Given that we are on a self harm site it wouldn't be a massive generalisation to assume that arm warmers are worn to hide scarring, should we ban photo's that have people wearing them or copious amounts of bracelets visible?

I guess I just don't understand why any member would want to make another member feel ashamed of themselves. We receive enough judgementalism from the general public without extending it to this so-called "safe place". I know people constantly go on about "bubble-wrapping", but this form of bubble-wrapping seems to deepen the stigma and shame that surrounds self-injury anyway. it seems that in order to protect the hyper-sensitive we may damage the opportunities of other members to share photo's of occasions that had nothing to do with self-injury and may damage their self esteem.

I don't have a problem with it.

I would have a problem with needing to put a 'bandage/dressing visible' lable on it though. It bothers me enough to have to put scars visible labels on things. I find that all those labels do is bring attention to the fact that said person has done it. I mean, come on, it's a self harm site, most of us have scars, like...get over it?

I realise that this thread is as a result of my post elsewhere and do not feel that the way people reacted to my feelings was fair and I believe could constitute flaming. I hope that people can abide by the warning of the thread starter, Ninja Duck.

I'm sorry but a picture I saw recently on a photo thread, I thought was distasteful. It showed a member with dressings on. I am currently really battling with my self harm and other far more important issues and feeling incredibly sensitive and going through a difficult time. I have no problem with people showing scars etc but pictures of dressings, I think, are inappropriate.

I know this is a self harm site and I am not asking to be wrapped up in conton wool etc but the image could have been edited in a way to show the member in what was a very nice dress etc with scars but without the dressings. Dressings equate fresh self harm. I am trying to fight against that but would love at the same time the need for the dressings i.e. fresh sh.

Someone has suggested that perhaps a hide box could have been used to note that there were dressings and I like that idea because if there had been a warning, I would not have seen the pictures and been upset in my super fragile state right now.

Seeing a few dressings on an arm of someone on a sh site naturally leads to the assumption of them beign as a result of self harm and to say otherwise is disingenuous.

Surely also, people can see the difference in bracelets and armwarmers as a way of covering things than dressings, which to me = medical = recent self harm = something which I am trying to fight (quite unsuccessfully) right now.

I hope that any responses on this are measured and fair and not targetted at me as I believe previous replies on the picture board have been unnecessarily harsh and that people are not taking the time to consider how it could make others feel.

I think so long as the banage or whatever is "clean" then it's fine. By clean, I mean no blood or whatever. I can see how it could be triggering to one who is particularly sensitive but at the end of the day I think we do enough (too much sometimes) to look after the members of this site and I don't see why, on a self harm forum, the occational bandage can't be shown so long as it isn't the main focus of the photograph.

I have no problem with scars either. Self harm is such a taboo anyway and the idea what they would unacceptable here is just disgusting. I'm really, really glad that we can show them in photo's (again, so long as they aren't the main focus).

I'm wondering about the thread labelling system. If bandages are going to be an issue, would the *scars showing* cover it? Or would we need a seperate *bandages showing* label? Personally, I think that would be complete over kill and totally unneeded; was just wondering on what others thought. Maybe the *scars showing* label could cover all scars, bandages, arm warmers or whatever related to self harm. No confusion that way.

Forgive me... but I think that's exactly what you're asking... What about if you saw someone walking down the street with scars and a bandage on? Would you ask them to put a cardigan on? This site, is and should be, the same as the real world, the world that we live in. Self harm is enough of a taboo as it is. We shouldn't have to hide who we are here.

I do appreciate that you're struggling at the moment and it must be really difficult for you.

No Reason, as you put it, "Dressings equate fresh self harm" That's not always the case.

Dressings arent always because of SH wounds. And would you rather she didnt have the dressing on?
You're not the only person going through this, and you're not the only one struggling. I'm sorry to hear that you are struggling, and we're here to help, however, the whole site cant be catered to one persons needs.
Like has been said before me, what else would you expect here?
To me, and from what I can gather, to most people here, dressings arent an issue. As has been said before, if the title says "may trigger" and you dont want to be triggered/dont feel safe enough, then don't look!

I don't have a problem with a picture of a bandage to be honest i would rather see that than some of the images i remember seeing on ruin with gapping wounds and tools which was a lot worse but i don't see the issue with it to be honest.

Ohhh Zoe, thank you for elaborating to what I had posted above you!! Cheers love!

Here here!
This discussion is really annoying me to be honest.
You can easily say to me "If this is annoying you, don't come on this thread." However, I could say "If you don't like the sight of a bandage, don't go on The Picture Thread where I have seen plenty of members with bandages on their arms and no one's ever said anything.
If they got triggered, they didn't kick up a fuss about it, they got on with their lives.

So should you.

This is what I was worried about. I took great care not to target my opinion or reply against any one particular person.

i think it is quite hypocritical (elsewhere) for those who have told me to grow up cannot express their opinions without attacking me, personally.

I am not just struggling with sh but shitloads of things that alot of you could not even begin to imagine.

I haven't come across pictures of bandages and you may think this is weird but I would find a bandage image far easier to deal with than those dressings as the bandage is going to cover the whole area.

I'm not asking anyone to hide and as I have said again and again, scars visible to me are fine.

Further, I thought that particular board was as titled, random pictures etc. People keep going on about "may trigger" warning but there isn't such a label on that thread, just a "scars visible" one, which, as I have said, i can deal with.

Please can people stop making this thread so personal and just express their opinions in a fair and balanced way.

I agree with this - as in, when I see a pic on this site with bandages, I'm going to assume it's a result of recent self harm. It's not the same as walking down the street, because the percentage of self harmers is slightly higher here than on a random busy street.

With arm warmers or other ways of covering up, it's not as apparent, because there's no telling if the scars/wounds hidden are several years old or from yesterday.

I'm not triggered by it... but I can easily see why it might, and please everyone: Surely, thinking about it, it's not that strange. There's no need for insensitive comments. "Shut up and deal with it" is something I expect from bullies, not our members. (Yes, I exaggerated.)

QFT!!

so wait because your struggling everyone should change how they do things ok that makes sense.

No reason- you say don't make it personal yet one of your comments was directed straight for me. I'm not hypocritical, I'm sorry if you think I attacked you. I didn't. I merely just said what I thought, I expressed my opinion exactly how I wanted to, if I meant to attack I wouldn't have been nice.


anyway, my opinion on this matter - I don't see a problem with dressings or bandages or any of the above mentioned ways to cover cuts being shown. To be honest, some of the scars I've seen on people are a LOT more shocking than seeing a clean dressing. I think this is once again another case of RYL becoming way too censored. Of course I don't think you should be allowed to show fresh cuts or SH tools or suicide scenes but I also don't think you should have to put a label to every thread. Someone on this site will be triggered by almost everything, I can see there being a warning for dogs or cats or flowers or hugs or kisses next. I really really think people should reconsider relying on RYL to provide a nice comfortable place where they can be protected from everything nasty. I think they should use it as a harsh reality to push them toward recovery. I don't think anybody here considers SH to be a nice thing, (if they do its unhealthy) so the realities that people sometimes may need bandages from hospitals or stitches or to be sectioned or even to be operated on to rectify the damage they have caused themselves shouldn't be ignored.

i think its a hell of alot better then seeing fresh wounds.

Thank You Maggie! Well Said.

I just want to say thank you because right now it feels as though no-one cares about my opinion and it seems popular for anyone replying just to insult me.

I'm not saying that the fact that I am struggling means people should change things.

Even if I didn't have all the **** going on that I have at the moment, I still don't think it is appropriate to have people displaying dressings on sh wounds.

I haven't replied to anything you have said from what I know so I am not sure what you mean about directing comments to you.

I am not asking RYL to be some kind of bubble and quite frankly am sometimes astounded by some of the things people have asked, directly on threads, to be put in hide boxes. However, I have never belittled their opinion or fear/trigger, etc.

I am very much aware of stitches, bandaging, surgery, etc. However, I say again, I do not think it is appropriate to display and I see it as an entry into competition re wounds, dressings, stitches, which happens at the moment already.

Maybe I missed it, but did anyone suggest a rule change? I don't think so, and that wasn't the question asked in the original post. Since opinions were wanted, opinions are given - that's no need to turn it into an argument.

So basically, saying that RYL is becoming more cotton-woolly wouldn't be technically correct, seeing as no change to the rules has been proposed. Whether it's too cotton-woolly now is a different debate, but I guess it's impossible to find a middle ground everyone is happy with.

I'm a bit of an on-and-off visitor on pic threads, but I can't say I've come across pictures of bandages much. Nothing obvious, anyway.

I also just read back to see if I forgot something and was about to quote myself because I thought "hey, I agree with that person" and then realized it was me. I'm sad. :P

but thats the thing it wont i see bandages on ryl like once and a blue moon thats the issue and no one is belitting your views we are saying what are views are.

no change in the rules has been proposed but realistically, you must see it happening too? Im sure it's not just me? Oh I don't know.

No reason you said it was hypocritical of the person who told you to grow up elsewhere not to be able to express their opinions without attacking you, unless someone else told you to grow up I took that to be directed at me from the thread this all started from? if i'm wrong then you may ignore what I said at the start of my previous post. and the rest of that post wasn't directed at you or anyone in particular so please dont feel the need to reply and defend yourself, as I stated before I wrote it I was just giving my opinion on the topic of this thread

Well done, Rike *Pats*

And no, there have been no rule changes, but it's only a matter of time. If said member who is complaining gets his/her way and the picture gets taken down, I can almost guarantee other members following suit and complaining about a picture of a dressing or bandage and wasting mod's time with a very tiny matter when they could be dealing with more important issues.
Eventually, mods will just comply with turning it into a rule so they can deal with other more pressing matters [Not saying you guys are lazy or anything :P]
So, it can either be left as it is and ONE member out of the thousands of members on here can remain unhappy [God forbid] OR it's going to just get out of hand, like I mentioned in my above paragraph.

Now please, just let it go.

I didn't realise that you had decided to sling that at me aswell. I was referring to someone else who had said that and whose profile tells me they are 17. I'm sure they are far more mature than me, despite the fact that I have been living in the real world far longer, etc. To me, such a comment, by anyone, suggests an immaturity that cannot be measured.

now no reason you were the one who said you wanted to keep this civil now calling people immature is not keeping this civil

Sorry but you have to have noted the insults that people have been allowed to say to me on this and the picture thread. For some reason, it is ok for people to gang up on me and say what they want but the minute I have a teeny weent transgression in the face of such an onslaught, it is addressed to me in public thereby giveing further fuel to those who want to belittle me, my maturity, my experiences and feelings.

*looks into Crystal Ball* I forsee this thread getting locked. Such a big debate over such a minute issue. It was one fecking pic with a bandage!!! who knew bandages could cause such a heated debate.

i have seen no case of that? point to me excatly where its diorected at you they call you out by name?.

Oh, my bad, that was me you aimed it at?
And, darling, if a picture of a dressing triggers or upsets you, then sadly, you cannot have been living in the real world for THAT long.
You've simply been living in the virtually padded walls of RYL.
So, clearly, I am more mature than you, despite what you say. As at least I have a genuine argument which makes a hell of a lot of sense..you can see by the amount of people agreeing with my point of view [Most of whom are in their 20's etc. So, obviously more 'mature' than I am] whereas you just keep repeating the same argument.

Age is irrelevant, sweetheart, learn that and one day, you can possibly properly grow up. :)

well to me, your comment about having the picture removed suggests an immaturity that cannot be measured. You say you've been living in the real world for longer, yet here you are on a website fighting against people suffering in the same way you are because they had a dressing on their arm. Don't patronise me, I don't care if you're older than me. I have also lived in the real world and experienced a lot of shiit, I'm not immature and I find it horrendously insulting that you would say I am. The fact that you are taking this entire thread as an insult to you and not a general thread is irritating the hell out of me, you raised a point, people are here to discuss their views on it. It is NOT all about you. Sorry you're in a bad place, but you're not the only one. I'm done with this. Congratulations on successfully pissing me off.

As far as I know, the suggestion was a hide box. The picture would still be there.

It may not be the opinion of the majority, but I quite like the fact that nowadays minorities can speak up. That doesn't mean things will change - it only means that everyone is heard. Of course, that doesn't work if the majority drowns out any opposing voices. I don't want RYL to become too cotton-woolly either... but there's no harm in hearing out other opinions.

People keep saying that RYL is becoming more censored - and no, that's not just one person talking, I've read it a lot especially on this board - but I don't see it. The ban on numbers is the only rule change I can think of to that effect. If there are more examples, please let me know - I'm definitely more of a chat person than a forum person.

What I find particularly ironic, though, is that the person criticised here didn't even make this thread.

i think that this is crazy its a bandage one single bandage so if i have a band aid on then it should be removed cause well i could have self harmed right? it comes down to how ridclous can we get? i however dont think ryl is to cotton wooly the only rule is the one rike stated which is the no numbers which is proberly one of the best changes made on this site. it was getting to be a contest and i can understand how you might think it will be with the bandages but i just dont think it will be possible with the mods around

Actually, they upset me. Thanks, Nic.

Well done people - this will quite likely be locked, and you won't have to listen to alternating opinions. Proud?

Ugh!! Just lock this thread. It's crashing and burning really fast.

So I haven't read the whole thread [because frankly I can't be arsed].

But surely, if you don't like what you see, don't look?

You must realise that scars or bandages may feature on a members picture thread?

Simple problem, simple answer- don't look at the picture forum.

Alright, then I would like to apologise for that part of my last post.

However, I still do not like being labelled as 'immature' and 'not been living in the real world for that long' just because I'm 17. You may have gone through a lot of ****, but I have too. Just remember, everyone on this site has.

Age is just a number. There are no given guidelines on age and maturity levels.

alternating opinions weren't being listened too anyway

Its fair enough for someone to be triggered by something...no arguament there, its just the drastic requests which could easily have insulted the person in the picture that have got to me.

how about this we keep the thread civil so we dont have to lock it that is NOT what i want to happen i want this to be civil i want everyone option. i can understand though no reason your views to, i can see how this might trigger you but i can also see the other side thats what everyone needs to be able to do understand BOTH sides, understand that and lets keep this thread for being locked like many other threads have.

I'm sorry, I can't actually deal with this right now.

I'm sorry if you think I am immature and have not had life experience etc but if that was the case, things wouldn't be so blummin difficult right now.

I have read your comments without being rude or offensive back. I think that displays more maturity.

I just ask you all, please, to stop being so offensive towards me. Just think how you would feel, if an issue that upset you (on top of everything else that others will never know) resulted in so many people slagging you off.

I don't think it is fair and just because you don't agree me, does not give anyone the right to treat me, or others, like this.

I have not been offensive towards you, So please do not say all of us has been.

Well I thought I'd get my opinion in before the thread gets locked!

I have no problem with pictures of bandages going up, and in all honesty a bandage to me is a sign that the person in trying. If they weren't trying, then the wouldn't clean the wound, and put the bandage on it. Therefore bandages are something positive. Trying is the first step towards recovery, and taking responsibility for self-harming and dealing with it sensibly (like putting on fresh dressings) is part of trying.

But thats just my opinion...

Do you not think that agreeing with someone telling me to "get over it" in effect, is not insulting or offensive towards me?

Again, you don't see this as a personal attack?

The particular thread is one where people post random photos of all sorts of things - trips, pets, etc. It is not labelled as triggering and is not meant to be so. So no, I do not expect to see dressings (which I find harder to cope with than bandages and I never brought up bandages, other people did).

You are saying I shouldn't look at the picture thread at all? I find it helpful to see peeps re their haircuts, days, etc, it helps distract me.

Perhaps you should read all of the thread and understand the original issue before being so abrupt.

I don't see what was drastic in asking for a picture (when there were others for that particular post) to be removed or altered in a way to disguise or get rid of the dressings.

Does no-one have any difficulty or compassion in seeing one member be attacked, personally, when they are in an incredibly difficult place right now? I find that sad and hard to understand when many people have suffered at the hands of others.

i don't mind, i've seen worse at meets.