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Old 16-01-2008, 09:09 PM   #1
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Honey Being Used For Injuries/Infections

"Honey making a medical comeback"

Potent type used as antibiotic amid fears of drug-resistant superbugs


Healing wounds
Honey dressings and gels, as well as tubes of manuka honey, have been gaining in popularity overseas, fueled by scientific reports on their medical benefits and occasional news accounts of the dramatic recovery of a patient with a longtime wound that suddenly healed...

Kara Couch, a nurse practitioner at Georgetown University Hospital's Center for Wound Healing in Washington, said it works well for patients who have "wound pain" or infected wounds...

One patient who had an open wound that didn't heal for a few years "healed 90 percent in three weeks," she said, adding that the usual rate for chronic wounds is barely 10 percent a week.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22398921

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"Honey helps problem wounds"

Medihoney more effective than antibiotics -- Bonn-led study to start soon

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releas...-hhp072706.php

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"Harnessing honey's healing"

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3787867.stm

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Old 17-01-2008, 03:03 PM   #2
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What's the debate? Surely if it works, it works. And if there's proper accredited scientific research backing it up, then I'm all for it. I do think it's interesting though how some anciet remedies are having a resurgence, e.g. leeches and maggots. I can see how there could be controversy surrounding that, but honey? The only people I can see kicking up a fuss would be militant vegans.





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Old 17-01-2008, 05:18 PM   #3
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It's 'news' and 'debate', not specifically everything has to be a debate.

I think this is just news.

Honey is brilliant, it's also really good for blemishes.

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Old 17-01-2008, 06:12 PM   #4
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One patient who had an open wound that didn't heal for a few years
Gross.

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Old 17-01-2008, 06:20 PM   #5
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A reason I posted about this is because new strains of antibiotic resistant MSRA are becoming worse than thought and honey has shown some effectiveness. If people will be going to health clubs, tattoo and piercing places etc. they need to be careful because this is going to get worse before it gets better.


MSRA thread ""New 'Supberbug' Killing More Than AIDS"
http://www.recoveryourlife.com/forum...ad.php?t=31530


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Old 17-01-2008, 06:21 PM   #6
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Honey's great stuff. Fantastic for sore throats; honey and lemon drinks are ace! :) That aside, honey been used for centuries to help heal wounds.

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Old 17-01-2008, 06:48 PM   #7
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I had heard for along time that honey was potent antibiotic. I would be curious to know just how "special" the expensive version is compared to more pedestrian honey. I know silver compounds are also a good antibiotic and were used in newborns eyes and burn victims.



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It's 'news' and 'debate', not specifically everything has to be a debate.

I think this is just news.

Honey is brilliant, it's also really good for blemishes.
I realise what I said might have come across as rude,but it's not how I mean't it. I mean't its a good idea, there's proper scientific evidence and I don't see how anyone could object to it.
Natural rememdies often are extremely effective, like I used teatree and lavendar oil to heal my septum piercing.
I can't see how the expensive stuff could be that different, does anyone know what it is, does it come from special plants or special bee's?





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I realise what I said might have come across as rude,but it's not how I mean't it. I mean't its a good idea, there's proper scientific evidence and I don't see how anyone could object to it.
Natural rememdies often are extremely effective, like I used teatree and lavendar oil to heal my septum piercing.
I can't see how the expensive stuff could be that different, does anyone know what it is, does it come from special plants or special bee's?
Heres an article from 2006 describing a "manuka bush"
Manuka honey - made by bees that collect pollen from the manuka bush (Leptospermum scoparium), which grows wild in New Zealand - has other, yet to be identified, ingredients which appear to have health benefits.
Professor Peter Molan, director of the honey research centre at the University of Waikato, New Zealand, has called these 'unique manuka factors' (UMFs) and uses this to classify its various strengths.
For example, a UMF5 product is thought to be equivalent to a 5 per cent solution of a standard antiseptic; a UMF20, the highest strain, is equal to a 20 per cent solution of antiseptic.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...page_id=17 74


There has also been success for wound healing using "chitosan" from shrimp shells

http://thebristolbaytimes.com/news/story/1065



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Watch scientists discover in 42 years that the cure to cancer is honey. hmmpf.

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So it seems the bear of very little brain was right all along.





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i love honey.

i've heard it's good for wounds and stuff but then i come across people saying "omg it's the antichrist don't touch that ****" so i haven't. not that i really have loads to lose.

more and more though it's been seeming favourable. i like how doctors are so afraid of saying that maybe this old-school stuff does work, and it doesn't have to have a brand name like Honeexa XHP to be legit.



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...people say that Honey is the antichrist?

I think pharmecutical companies are very afraid of finding simple solutions to problems they spent tons of money on solving....and they really would charge you $800 for a bottle of Honeexa XHP, $200 for the generic Hoeuey ereiuff, when a bottle from the grocery store cost $2.

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Old 21-01-2008, 03:06 PM   #14
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oh i've tried honey befre *shrugs* it's just sugar..
the dressings with the nanoparticles of silver something-or-other work a lot better 8)



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Old 21-01-2008, 03:36 PM   #15
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manuka honey is really good. you have to get it in at least a '10' rated strength though. its about 20 a jar in health food shops, 10 in tesco and 5 in morrisons.

I've personally seen it heal bed sores in just a few days, also a terminally ill uncle had it on toast every morning and within a week his dry skin had gone, the shine was back in his eyes and he was able to get out of bed for the first time in months. I'm not saying it cures cancer, but it certainly helped make him more comfortable and eased the side effects of chemo and radiotherapy in his last few weeks.

I've heard of people with immune disorders using this honey and it has had a big impact on their condition.

Also... not specifically manuka honey.... but if you suffer from hayfever, find some locally made honey, eat it for a week - your hayfever should at least lessen, if not completley disappear (it worked for me when even the strongest antihistamines did nothing).
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ps... i don't like honey it is icky! definatley one of those 'horrible tasting medicines'.



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Honey does have some interesting and quite outlandish stories in the medical area.... Amongst some of it's many mundane uses for treating ilness and wounds were also honey-mummified human tissue. They used to get old(but healthy) people, who would actually put themselves up for becoming a honey mummy. They'd eat and drink only honey till they died of this, then the body would be mummified in honey (the recipe is for 100 years, though it's thought most were done for a great deal less, for money-turnover purposes). Ingest to cure many ailments.... Sounds, nice.

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