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Harley · 09-06-2007, 01:36 PM

This is very true :

Quote:

Originally Posted by happywondering

I think giving out blades to self harmers is a world of difference to giving out clean needles to heroin addicts. Its not like the NHS give heroin addicts heroin, they just give them the equipment to be safe while taking it.

If they gave out blades to self harmers they'd be new, they'd be clean but they'd be sharp hence people could do more damage to themselves. Personally I'd be disturbed by a nurse giving me blades, I'd see it as an invitation to cut myself.

What they should do is give self harmers the stuff to treat themselves after they have cut themselves, like badnages and antiseptic. It wouldnt prevernt it happening but it'd prevent the risk of infection which is far better. And really I must say the one thing I've learnt from cutting myself for years is how to treat a cut properly, so being given the proper tools to treat it properly would be a godsent. it's not like being given bandages would encourage it either...

If this all goes through and they do start giving out blades on the NHS, perhaps RYL should start giving away first aid packs as well as 1 Month Free bracelets! :)

As for the General Chat thing, come on. RYL is a self-harm support and discussion community, and talking about issues that affect all of us is important and highly relevant to everyone, whether they want to stop, have stopped or don't want to even.

GC is not here for support threads regarding any form of Self Harm, hence it says no advice threads. It also frowns of triggering material. This is neither.

I really don't want RYL turning soft as it transfers over to v3. I know a lot of people feel the site is quite cutesy and bright (until we get the new skins!) but I think it is important that we don't swing our attitude in a negative (read fluffy) direction. This is RYL, and its roots are firmly in reality - not sugar coating everything. We have tons of measures everywhere to prevent truly triggering material from being in the wrong place, and try hard to maintain an organised forum now we have switched over. I don't think RYL needs to be so politically correct that it bans all intellectual discussion about topical self harm issues, such as this, eating disorders in fashion, obesity etc. General is going to become a very dull place if it has no substance. Every member can inject substance by giving a thoughtful reply to such a thread, or making your their own, and I welcome it.

I don't want political debate in the most heated sense of the word because of past RYL history. Time after time after time when we have let it slide and tried doing without it, threads descended into members hating each other - and those are not two people who then reply to each other’s posts in Serious.

I also don't want really contentious issues, such as Peta, war and other such things because again it just makes everyone mad and we don't need it.

But substantial discussions about subjects such as this further everyone’s understanding of the support and treatment options available to them, and we get to have some stimulating conversation to boot.

It is that sort of thing Live Forum View was made for :)

Harley

09-06-2007, 01:36 PM	#58
Harley Webmaster RYL Sponsor Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: Scotland I am currently:	This is very true : Quote: Originally Posted by happywondering I think giving out blades to self harmers is a world of difference to giving out clean needles to heroin addicts. Its not like the NHS give heroin addicts heroin, they just give them the equipment to be safe while taking it. If they gave out blades to self harmers they'd be new, they'd be clean but they'd be sharp hence people could do more damage to themselves. Personally I'd be disturbed by a nurse giving me blades, I'd see it as an invitation to cut myself. What they should do is give self harmers the stuff to treat themselves after they have cut themselves, like badnages and antiseptic. It wouldnt prevernt it happening but it'd prevent the risk of infection which is far better. And really I must say the one thing I've learnt from cutting myself for years is how to treat a cut properly, so being given the proper tools to treat it properly would be a godsent. it's not like being given bandages would encourage it either... If this all goes through and they do start giving out blades on the NHS, perhaps RYL should start giving away first aid packs as well as 1 Month Free bracelets! :) As for the General Chat thing, come on. RYL is a self-harm support and discussion community, and talking about issues that affect all of us is important and highly relevant to everyone, whether they want to stop, have stopped or don't want to even. GC is not here for support threads regarding any form of Self Harm, hence it says no advice threads. It also frowns of triggering material. This is neither. I really don't want RYL turning soft as it transfers over to v3. I know a lot of people feel the site is quite cutesy and bright (until we get the new skins!) but I think it is important that we don't swing our attitude in a negative (read fluffy) direction. This is RYL, and its roots are firmly in reality - not sugar coating everything. We have tons of measures everywhere to prevent truly triggering material from being in the wrong place, and try hard to maintain an organised forum now we have switched over. I don't think RYL needs to be so politically correct that it bans all intellectual discussion about topical self harm issues, such as this, eating disorders in fashion, obesity etc. General is going to become a very dull place if it has no substance. Every member can inject substance by giving a thoughtful reply to such a thread, or making your their own, and I welcome it. I don't want political debate in the most heated sense of the word because of past RYL history. Time after time after time when we have let it slide and tried doing without it, threads descended into members hating each other - and those are not two people who then reply to each other’s posts in Serious. I also don't want really contentious issues, such as Peta, war and other such things because again it just makes everyone mad and we don't need it. But substantial discussions about subjects such as this further everyone’s understanding of the support and treatment options available to them, and we get to have some stimulating conversation to boot. It is that sort of thing Live Forum View was made for :) Harley