Originally Posted by
Buttons.
Out of interest Jack what do you think of the studies that show brain differences between gay and straight people, and other biological studies?.....
Some of what he says is offensive to me and many other people so again, you cannot make a value judgement on behalf of other people, just because you don't find it offensive doesn't mean other people don't. Yes Jack is very intelligent. Yes he can make a valid point. Not denying that. Whenever I agree with him I say so. I just believe he is unfortunately using a large part of his intellect to fight in the wrong corner and because he is so clever he is very good at deluding himself that everyone who is remotely left wing are zombies spouting left wing propaganda. When in fact at least some of us are intelligent people who just happen to have opposing views.
As for brain differences - brain scan studies were once the darling of psychobiology but they started losing credibility some years ago. People were simply trying to make too much out of them. Much of what was measured took place after behaviours and not prior. Conclusion based on shape and size of brain parts were often superficial. Athletes often have more muscle than non athletes. Nobody would say having more muscle causes people to be athletic. Being athletic in the first place will often cause people to have more muscle.
The current soulless version of popular psychology loves anything that reduces people to blobs of chemicals, impulses and anatomical discrepancies. Its all quite medieval despite the veneer of scientism
Here is good article about scans:
Brain Scan Overload
Don't be fooled by pictures of the mind in action
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...508340744.html
As for the part upsetting people and left wing zombies you contradict yourself. You write that some left wing people aren't zombies sprouting propaganda and they just have opposing views.
That's fine - likewise I also have opposing views and that doesn't mean I have them in order to upset people. I don't think SI is the best behaviour. I assume people engaged in it weren't born to SI. I am sure their are people who would be offended I think those things but to me its a matter of common sense (which is no longer common). Growing up I examined a lot of my own behaviours and learned to to rationalise some things away.
What people find offensive is not relevant. If I politely told a cannibal eating people was disgusting he would be offended. I don't believe in the death penalty despite being conservative on other issues. Other conservatives get upset with me for that but what am I supposed to do?
Now I always liked you more than a lot of other people at RYL and I have very good and specific reasons for that. What you do in your personal life really doesn't stand out in front of my mind.
My main problem is with agenda groups trying to defame and bully their way to control of debates while crying crocodile tears about bullying and name calling. Gay groups will say there is no correlation between homosexuality and abuse when there are voluminous studies that show exactly that. If anyone brings up those studies they get defamed as a phobe of some stripe. That's brainwashing and its been intentional as a tactic - I've read the books that outlined the strategy.
Still - I don't care what people are into in their own lives. Its just that I see the trend towards some pretty bizarre and monstrous things. One is the push to put kids as young as 5 or 7 on hormone blockers so they can "decide" what gender to be latter. I mean that's Nazi doctor stuff.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,356592,00.html
Of course the danger of suicide is bandied about as an excuse but it's fraudulent. I know suicide stats and trends very well. There is no "gay suicide holocaust" like I see in the news. One boy became a celebrity touting a gay holocaust of 6 million gays a year. That's ludicrous and yet it doesn't get challenged in media. Its like Alice through the looking glass.
“There is a silent holocaust out there, in which an estimated 6 million gay people every year kill themselves.”
http://justjared.buzznet.com/2010/11...-for-equality/