Originally Posted by
Patchwork
If I knew who you were, and where you are, I would do my very best to make sure you never have the opportunity to work with autistic people, as you so obviously lack the empathy, patience and understanding it takes to do so.
And who said you didn't make things personal
Please just calm down. I have worked with people with autism, and I even got a little shiny award certificate from it. There is NO NEED to descend into this. I didn't want to reply, but that statement is incredibly upsetting. I haven't at one single point said anything even remotely childish and hurtful as you have there, or even slightly stalkerish... I'm sorry you feel so strongly, as I have repeatedly pointed out, I have tried to remain calm throughout. I'm sorry you think that makes me a big bad wolf. One silly dispute on an internet forum is no reason to make real-life threats of retaliation. I have never sworn at you, I have not called you names, nor have I threatened to track you down and ruin your life, I understand things can get heated, but where personal feelings are involved it can often be the case.
I will reiterate my core beliefs, this time I hope you can see past any blind rage, although I know this sin't fully directed at me, because before I joined this thread, similar behaviour was being thrown at other members, I believe it was Pup on page two who told you to 'chill'?
1) People with aspergers are all different. Some people benefit from having someone to talk to, others don't. Everybody has seperate dreams, desires, goals, likes, dislikes, what works for one may not necessarily work for another. Patient-centered care is, luckily a major part of any health system.
2) Some people with aspergers have voluntarily sought out counselling. My university counsellor has told me she has seen and continues to see people who have, out of their own time and free will, emailed her for an appointment.
3) Mental health teams are not the appropriate place for people with any form of ASD, however if the person voluntarily decides to seek out a form of therapy, occupational therapy (drawing, maths, day trips) then it is their right to do so. Specific autistic treatment is obviously the appropriate treatment, anything else should be alongside, and voluntary.
Now, I hope you can try to calm, don't accuse of me 'starting an argument' - there is a big difference between discussing points and issues, debating, and descending into petty name-calling. I'm sorry if my above points offend you, they are simply born out of what I have experienced, and discussed with other people, I agree I could be wrong. You are/were welcome to change my mind, but I just can't listen when real-life threats and foul language are used. I understand you have aspergers, but you do seem intelligent (patchwork and nil) and I have seen that you can do this.
Any sarcastic comment or emotive post from me was born out of my own issues, as you have pointed out yourself, you can't blame me for those, Nil himself(herself?) said that I would expect somone to be more lenient with me, based on my own issues and diagnosis. (I actually don't, because it is very rarely offered).
I hope you have remained calm reading this, if you are stressed, take some time, and read it again. This is my third post where I have honestly tried to be fair, level, compassionate and rectify and misunderstandings or hurt feelings. I understand that out of your own anger you might have missed that.
I could use the multi-quote function to, and bring up the numerous expletives, insults, accusations and threats, but that would not be fair, or productive in any sense.
I hope you are ok. I look forward to reading the information thread, if you feel unable to explain to me why you feel my beliefs are wrong, without resorting to a descent into argumentativeness. Obviously you have much more experience and insight into the condition than I do, I am looking at it from an outsider view, which is the view shared by professionals, who themselves can be wrong.
Take care
xx