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Le Almighty Kitten · 11-02-2009, 01:49 PM

This reply will no doubt be all over the place, so apologies in advance.

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Originally Posted by <alive>

I am not disputing peoples decisions not to recover. That is their choice. But I am disputing there right to discuss with other people the best way that they cut and I am never going to condone "cutting is better than <insert other addiction here>".

Agreed. I don't think it is right to discuss methods of cutting, whether that be area or tool etc. I don't think many on here would suggests methods for attempting suicide, would they? So, i find it hard to comprehend why people would want to discuss methods of cutting. I can see a place for 'safe' cutting, but no more than cleaning tools etc.

Perhaps this will go against the grain, but in some situations, SH is okay, but that does not make it acceptable and for me, that's where the difference lies. In some cases, self harm is the lesser of two evils and assuming someone isn't at high risk of accidental suicide, self harm may be 'saving' their life.

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Originally Posted by <alive>

Cutting also damages other people. How many people have whole relationships with their friends and family... or did cutting emotionally damage that. Mental illness damages relationships becasue it's not understood. BUt cutting adds to that becasue it's a dangerous coping mechanism. Careful or not. It isn't safe and it does harm other people if not directly and physically.

Indeed, however much someone tries to self harm 'carefully' there is still a great danger. But, on the flip side, both physical and mental illnesses have the capacity to damage relationships.

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Originally Posted by <alive>

This. I want the normalising the 'it's okay to hurt yourself' stuff to stop. If you're going to post then fine, but don't encourage cutting.

'Okay' doesn't have to equate normalising, accepting that someone self harms and is going to remain doing so for the foreseeable future does not mean encouraging self harm. Similarly though, self harm being 'okay' does not make self harm good.

Goodness knows if any of that made sense.

11-02-2009, 01:49 PM	#45
Le Almighty Kitten Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Scotland	This reply will no doubt be all over the place, so apologies in advance. Quote: Originally Posted by <alive> I am not disputing peoples decisions not to recover. That is their choice. But I am disputing there right to discuss with other people the best way that they cut and I am never going to condone "cutting is better than <insert other addiction here>". Agreed. I don't think it is right to discuss methods of cutting, whether that be area or tool etc. I don't think many on here would suggests methods for attempting suicide, would they? So, i find it hard to comprehend why people would want to discuss methods of cutting. I can see a place for 'safe' cutting, but no more than cleaning tools etc. Perhaps this will go against the grain, but in some situations, SH is okay, but that does not make it acceptable and for me, that's where the difference lies. In some cases, self harm is the lesser of two evils and assuming someone isn't at high risk of accidental suicide, self harm may be 'saving' their life. Quote: Originally Posted by <alive> Cutting also damages other people. How many people have whole relationships with their friends and family... or did cutting emotionally damage that. Mental illness damages relationships becasue it's not understood. BUt cutting adds to that becasue it's a dangerous coping mechanism. Careful or not. It isn't safe and it does harm other people if not directly and physically. Indeed, however much someone tries to self harm 'carefully' there is still a great danger. But, on the flip side, both physical and mental illnesses have the capacity to damage relationships. Quote: Originally Posted by <alive> This. I want the normalising the 'it's okay to hurt yourself' stuff to stop. If you're going to post then fine, but don't encourage cutting. 'Okay' doesn't have to equate normalising, accepting that someone self harms and is going to remain doing so for the foreseeable future does not mean encouraging self harm. Similarly though, self harm being 'okay' does not make self harm good. Goodness knows if any of that made sense.
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