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Snow White. · 21-11-2008, 06:37 AM

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The thing is, if everytime you feel ****, you go into hospital, how on earth are you *ever* going to be able to go out in the real world? It's a completely daft idea. BPD is to do with emotional regulation - if you learn to regulate your emotions, then you will get better. If every timeyou feel a bit sad/angry/lost/unreal, you hide from the emotions by getting someone else to look after you, taking away all responsibility and outside stressors, then you'll just get worse and worse.

And that's the bottom line. BPD people *want* to be in hospital - other disorders have no choice. And as far as I'm concerned - that 'stereotype' fits in with every BPD person I've met and known.

Noones saying you're NOT sad/upset/angry etc, they're just saying the treatment is wrong. Not every physical condition necessitates a stay in a general hospital, so why should every mental disorder?

It depends really what's more important to the BPD, getting better, or feeling looked after.

And why SHOULDN'T someone with BPD be permitted to be admitted? If someone has not been admitted into the hospital system at all, and is being flat-out refused the admission into an IP ward due to the diagnosis of "BPD", then how is that even fair?

And yes, people with BPD can get attached, find the safety comforting, get "addicted" if you will to the hospital. Uh huh. Been there. But if they are going to hospital to try and get better, then I fail to see where the problem is in this.

I see the problem, if they've had numerous admissions and are showing no improvement and not wanting to make any improvement.

However, if (in the case the original poster has defined) they are asking to be admitted, how can they refuse that "because you have BPD."

I compeltely agree that reinforcing "pain - attention" using the hospital is bad. But if they are going in because they want to get better, and the staff there know they have BPD (and as such, don't let the admission be too long, treat them effectively with skills, refer them onwards to maybe an out-patient clinic) I think it can be beneifical. After all, "BPD is to do with emotional regulation - if you learn to regulate your emotions, then you will get better." and why not begin this teaching in a hospital evironment, especially if you are so low nothing is working outside the hospital?

If every time you feel **** you go into hospital = bad.

If you feel **** and ask for an admission to work on yourself, and you meet a new treating team etc, and they treat you properly and help you not to get trapped in the system = helpful.

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And as far as I'm concerned - that 'stereotype' fits in with every BPD person I've met and known.

I'd like to suggest then that you meet new/more people.

21-11-2008, 06:37 AM	#32
Snow White. I am a fairy. Join Date: May 2004 I am currently:	Quote: The thing is, if everytime you feel ***, you go into hospital, how on earth are you ever* going to be able to go out in the real world? It's a completely daft idea. BPD is to do with emotional regulation - if you learn to regulate your emotions, then you will get better. If every timeyou feel a bit sad/angry/lost/unreal, you hide from the emotions by getting someone else to look after you, taking away all responsibility and outside stressors, then you'll just get worse and worse. And that's the bottom line. BPD people want to be in hospital - other disorders have no choice. And as far as I'm concerned - that 'stereotype' fits in with every BPD person I've met and known. Noones saying you're NOT sad/upset/angry etc, they're just saying the treatment is wrong. Not every physical condition necessitates a stay in a general hospital, so why should every mental disorder? It depends really what's more important to the BPD, getting better, or feeling looked after. And why SHOULDN'T someone with BPD be permitted to be admitted? If someone has not been admitted into the hospital system at all, and is being flat-out refused the admission into an IP ward due to the diagnosis of "BPD", then how is that even fair? And yes, people with BPD can get attached, find the safety comforting, get "addicted" if you will to the hospital. Uh huh. Been there. But if they are going to hospital to try and get better, then I fail to see where the problem is in this. I see the problem, if they've had numerous admissions and are showing no improvement and not wanting to make any improvement. However, if (in the case the original poster has defined) they are asking to be admitted, how can they refuse that "because you have BPD." I compeltely agree that reinforcing "pain - attention" using the hospital is bad. But if they are going in because they want to get better, and the staff there know they have BPD (and as such, don't let the admission be too long, treat them effectively with skills, refer them onwards to maybe an out-patient clinic) I think it can be beneifical. After all, "BPD is to do with emotional regulation - if you learn to regulate your emotions, then you will get better." and why not begin this teaching in a hospital evironment, especially if you are so low nothing is working outside the hospital? If every time you feel ** you go into hospital = bad. If you feel ** and ask for an admission to work on yourself, and you meet a new treating team etc, and they treat you properly and help you not to get trapped in the system = helpful. Quote: And as far as I'm concerned - that 'stereotype' fits in with every BPD person I've met and known. I'd like to suggest then that you meet new/more people. Last edited by Snow White. : 21-11-2008 at 11:07 AM.