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Daryl 16-10-2013 10:52 AM

Katie Hopkins
 
Anyone see this video?

Agree / disagree with what she is saying?

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lATsg3Ltm8"]YouTube[/ame]
http://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/we...s-are-to-blame

FabulousMike 16-10-2013 10:54 AM

Video has been removed by user...

Enthused 16-10-2013 10:54 AM

Just kill her. Job done

Daryl 16-10-2013 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by FabulousMike (Post 3671592)
Video has been removed by user...


http://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/we...s-are-to-blame

FabulousMike 16-10-2013 11:10 AM

I was actually watching that video the other day! She just makes my blood boil, can't stand her. I think she would fit in well in the Nasty Party though, maybe she should take up politics.

ASkatersDream... 16-10-2013 11:20 AM

She drives me up the wall and the facial expressions she pulls are amazing

Answer to question yes and no

Forest Fire 16-10-2013 11:49 AM

In this instance she is bang on. Children shouldn't be fat and it's 100% the parents fault.
When you get to adulthood it's the individual's choice what they do to themselves. But as a kid they should be taught that being fat is just as bad as taking up smoking.
I should add that normally I think this woman is a joke.

MunchBox 16-10-2013 12:09 PM

She loves the attention her controversy brings.

griddlebone 16-10-2013 12:12 PM

The expression 'dont feed the troll' seems appropriate. The only reason she still gets put on TV is that she causes reactions.

I love watching Holly try and debate with her, its comedy gold.

Forest Fire 16-10-2013 12:44 PM

Apart from her attitude, what is wrong with the actual points she is making on this issue? Genuine question.
Like I already said, i usually think she just talks **** in the hope of getting some publicity, but I do agree with her on this.

griddlebone 16-10-2013 12:56 PM

She does have a point, although I dont agree with telling children theyre fat. Parents are responsible for their children, there was one child who came into school with a sandwich that had nutella instead of butter and smarties as the filling!That was by no means the only day they came in with stuff like that.

Ive looked in kids lunchboxes over the years and the children that are overweight, you can spot their lunch a mile off! I actually find it hard to get my head around that some parents need to be told what a healthy lunch is! They do all of these initiatives in schools,healthy schools/yoga before school/after school clubs but then they go home, have an unhealthy dinner and watch tv all evening!

Some parents need to get off their backsides and go to the park, play football/go for a walk/go swimming all of that stuff. Make it fun for themselves and their children. The onus is on the parents in 90% of cases IMO.

Enthused 16-10-2013 01:00 PM

Chocolate spread with smarties as the filling?! That sounds awesome.

offlineforever 16-10-2013 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forest Fire (Post 3671601)
In this instance she is bang on. Children shouldn't be fat and it's 100% the parents fault.
When you get to adulthood it's the individual's choice what they do to themselves. But as a kid they should be taught that being fat is just as bad as taking up smoking.
I should add that normally I think this woman is a joke.

It isn't the parents fault if the child has a medical condition that makes them overweight, such as the medical condition that some have that they just don't recognise that they are full. That annoys me when people always blame the parents. Yes the majority of the time it is a parents fault but it isn't fair to tar all parents with the same brush.

The main reason this annoys me is because I have a medical condition that makes it really difficult for me to gain weight and i grew up with my parents occasionally being told by other adults that they didn't feed me properly.

Sorry to go on a bit of a rant. But actually I do agree that where it is a parents fault a child is fat they do need help to help the child become healthy.

griddlebone 16-10-2013 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Enthused (Post 3671622)
Chocolate spread with smarties as the filling?! That sounds awesome.

I wanted to eat it!

offlineforever 16-10-2013 02:27 PM

I want a nutella and smartie sandwich too!

FabulousMike 16-10-2013 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Enthused (Post 3671622)
Chocolate spread with smarties as the filling?! That sounds awesome.

Does sound good but i'm fat enough already, don't need to add to it hahaha!

griddlebone 16-10-2013 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Ytak (Post 3671623)
It isn't the parents fault if the child has a medical condition that makes them overweight, such as the medical condition that some have that they just don't recognise that they are full. That annoys me when people always blame the parents. Yes the majority of the time it is a parents fault but it isn't fair to tar all parents with the same brush.

The main reason this annoys me is because I have a medical condition that makes it really difficult for me to gain weight and i grew up with my parents occasionally being told by other adults that they didn't feed me properly.

Sorry to go on a bit of a rant. But actually I do agree that where it is a parents fault a child is fat they do need help to help the child become healthy.

I dont think that this is including children with a medical condition though. If your child has a medical condition which contributes to weight gain then the nurse who weighs your child who be aware of that and those results would be taken out of the statistics.

The thing is that people assume obese children are over eating, the same way they assume that children who are behind with reading/whatever have parents that dont care enough to help them. People judge other people and most parents especially spend a lot of time judging other peoples children and thinking how much better their own parenting is when in reality its all guess work.

As far as Im aware they were discussing those children who are overweight due to eating a lot of junk food/dont have enough exercise due to pure laziness/lack of parental motivation.

talaiporia 16-10-2013 03:58 PM

Honestly, I think her size is the least of her problems; she was fired from a previous employer (on a 6 hour a week job), she's poorly qualified, and she has a poor attitude. With everything else stacked against her, her weight might well be the final straw, but it is not the only reason she's not had a job.

I did kind of agree with Katie on "its always someone else's problem". I'm overweight, and frankly I can blame it on lots of things, but at the end of the day, I could make a choice to eat better, and take better care of myself, and I don't. The woman blames slow thyroid/PCOS, but frankly neither of those conditions stops you losing weight, just makes it more difficult. There were clearly issues that caused her previous employer to fire her, so this isn't the only thing holding her back. "It's unfair" she says, but life's unfair. The job market is tough, and employers have the right to pick the best of the best.

Bellatrix 16-10-2013 05:50 PM

Don't need to watch it. She is a very bizarre person. I listen to what she says and I'm just like... 'how.. what... i don't even....'

whirlpools 16-10-2013 06:49 PM

I am not in a position at the moment to be able to watch the video, but my personal opinion on childhood obesity (in those caused by poor lifestyle) is that it's everyone's problem. Mainly the guardians, probably, but I think some responsibility has to lie with advertising (notice how they never advertise carrots and broccoli?!), advertising times, school meals, supermarkets selling unhealthy foods at discount prices in a time where people often just don't have the money for fruit and veg.

I'm probably being far too idealistic, and I know I bang on about this sometimes, but there's got to be some way of focussing on bringing down the costs of fresh fruit and veg. (Frozen, dried and tinned in juices are also great).

Though I appreciate that that's only part of it, and that it's easier to give the little ones turkey twizzlers, chips and spaghetti hoops with ketchup for tea every night than it is to cook a fresh meal (though swap chips for new potatoes, turkey twizzlers for a piece of fresh meat/fish in sauce and spaghetti hoops for wacking some broccoli into the steamer, really isn't much more difficult - again, cost of fish at the moment though, there's got to be some way of fishing more sustainably to keep stocks up and prices down).

/tangent.


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