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Niniane 08-01-2012 08:54 AM

I can't get them out of my head
 
Hi,

My voices are worse than ever. I can't get them out of my head. They stick into it, while I read, while I do nothing, while I watch a movie... There's simply no stopping them.
I don't know what to do anymore to make them stop. I so want them to stop, they're very aggressive, they can bring me to tears somehow easily.


Does anyone have any idea on how to make them stop, even for a bit ?

inblack 09-01-2012 07:17 AM

Has anything worked in the past in terms of helping to get them to stop?

I listen to music when I'm being very bothered by voices. It doesn't always make them stop but I find it to be a good distraction for me.

roiben 09-01-2012 02:24 PM

Have you tried challenging them, and speaking outloud to them to tell them to go away, and that what they say is not true, and that they do not have power over you.

I think that is the most important thing to remember, as loud as they get, they do not have power over you.

Be gentle with yourself, and do let your care team know how things are.

Roiben x

Niniane 14-01-2012 11:10 AM

Thank you both for your answers, I'm sorry I couldn't thank you sooner but I was on a psych ward.

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Has anything worked in the past in terms of helping to get them to stop?
Music used to help, but now it doesn't do anything anymore.

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Have you tried challenging them, and speaking outloud to them to tell them to go away, and that what they say is not true, and that they do not have power over you.
I've tried several of those, but it just ended up with them screaming in my head.

crazykat 14-01-2012 11:38 AM

Have you spoken to any professionals about the voices you are hearing? I also found this article on practical information on how to deal with hearing voices that you may find helpful.

DollyPOP 14-01-2012 12:47 PM

Maybe try going on a run? It'll take your focus away if you challenge yourself, when I go running I push myself and set targets that way, my brain is ONLY able to think of the next tree that I'm running towards.

As well it will change the brain chemicals slightly in your brain by releasing endorphins and the like: it *might* help. Then again it might not, but it's worth a shot!?!?

Are they inside yoru head or outside, because that's a really important defining factor and probably is really important for when you're researching how to deal with them.

x

Niniane 14-01-2012 08:04 PM

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Have you spoken to any professionals about the voices you are hearing?
Yes, I spoke to many professionals about it and was hospitalized because of it. It turned out that meds don't work, and we have no idea why I have those voices in my head.
Thank you very much for the link, I hadn't noticed this part of the website.

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Maybe try going on a run? It'll take your focus away if you challenge yourself, when I go running I push myself and set targets that way, my brain is ONLY able to think of the next tree that I'm running towards.
Unfortunately, I hate running. But the idea of challenging myself is a good one, one that I probably could apply to something else.

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Are they inside yoru head or outside, because that's a really important defining factor and probably is really important for when you're researching how to deal with them.
They're inside my head. Like a thought, except that I know they're not my thoughts.



The voices have increased. Being on psych ward hasn't helped at all. Now I'm afraid anytime something is not where I remember, because I think that the Trackers are getting at me to kill me. It's just getting worse and worse.
They've been nagging at my brain all day, sneaking in as soon as I wasn't really focused on something.

crazykat 15-01-2012 04:12 AM

I would speak to the professionals again, perhaps there is something else they can do to help. I hope you find the article helpful. Can you try and use some logic and and tell yourself that they are just voices and they can't hurt you?

Niniane 15-01-2012 11:52 AM

I see my psychiatrist on thursday, I'll talk about it with her.
And the logic part is a bit hard, because the voices use every moment of my life in their talking, which makes them incredibly real, and logic falters.

crazykat 15-01-2012 11:54 AM

Yeah perhaps your psych will be able to suggest something helpful, good luck

DollyPOP 17-01-2012 11:05 AM

they may be able to put you on anti-psychotics: that might help?!

Niniane 17-01-2012 11:02 PM

I've already tried a lot of anti-psychotics and they didn't work.
The doctors don't know why, but the meds don't work with me.

Koriandr 18-01-2012 12:55 AM

If the meds aren't really working, do you think it could be something trauma related?

I'd try talking to the voices, they may actually be trying to tell you something. If they are talking to you just internally, maybe try to respond internally? I'm still having communication issues as well, so I can't say I've tried any of this from experience yet. Are they talking all at once? Or separately? Maybe try writing them a note, or talking aloud?

Just some suggestions, and you might want to go back to a psych and ask about it again, this time, instead of working with meds, maybe doing some psychotherapy might help? Best wishes!

Niniane 22-01-2012 02:48 PM

Sorry for the delay, I hadn't seen your answer!

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If the meds aren't really working, do you think it could be something trauma related?
I'm not aware of any trauma, but my shrink thinks it has something to do with my birth, which was pretty much a mess. My mother didn't see me or touch me, I was sent in another hospital. When she saw me it was 11 days after her delivery, and she couldn't find her maternal instinct right away - it took her several days. Anyway, my psychiatrist thinks it's the trauma that led to me hearing voices.

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If they are talking to you just internally, maybe try to respond internally?
They're very aggressive and talking to them internally makes it worse - I've tried enough time to know it by now.

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Are they talking all at once? Or separately?
They talk separately, but within the same "conversation". Basically a ramble about me being an incarnation of Evil that should either kill itself and give to humanity its true reality back (Savior), or that I should be killed by others, so Evil can go in every person and infect everything (Evil).

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Maybe try writing them a note, or talking aloud?
Right now I'm trying to keep them in check by writing everything they say, but it doesn't help much. I like the idea of writing them a note.

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Just some suggestions, and you might want to go back to a psych and ask about it again, this time, instead of working with meds, maybe doing some psychotherapy might help?
I've been on psychotherapy since I was 14. That makes 8 years, and it didn't help either.

Anyway, thank you very much for your answer, and again all my apologies for the reply's delay.

LozzyGirl 22-01-2012 03:00 PM

I don't have much experience with this kind of thing.
I thought I'd just message to tell you to stay strong. You CAN beat them!

Niniane 22-01-2012 03:22 PM

Thank you very much for your message of support. I do hope I'll be able to beat them one day.

Niniane 23-01-2012 01:50 PM

Voices are hard today. Why ? I don't know. But I'm tired of fighting them, I'm starting to confuse again what's real and what the voices say to me (I had wounds dressed up, and the voice told me that it wasn't a bandage but micro-ships to know me better).
The same goes with my family, I'm starting to wonder where my anguish is and where reality is.
Not knowing what's real anymore is hard.

Niniane 04-02-2012 07:14 PM

Sorry for bringing up this post, but the voices are still there. They make me paranoid, I'm afraid that children on the streets will kill me, or that I'm killing them for even looking at them. That I'm mentally torturing people when I see them or talk to them - it explains why they keep themselves away from me.
In the subway, I count the ways people could possibly kill me. Nothing feels real. To me, it's like Evil (meaning me) forced people to make a jail. And that jail is Earth, but it's not real, just a clouded reality. According to my voices, everyone exists and is in pain because I live.
If I want people to be happy, I have to kill myself. If I let them close on me and kill me, Evil will stay here forever.

I know it sounds silly said like that, but to me it's terribly real. The voices are using every moment of my life (as in : today, my door was extremely hard to unlock - it's not because of humidity, but because the Trackers have broken into my place to see how I live, and what is the most efficient method to kill me). In my vision of reality, my parents are the ones that made that jail, and they resent me for it. That's why they like my sister better, she didn't force them to put a cloud on reality. She's like their sunshine in the world of my Evil.

Again, sorry for bringing this up, and sorry for the long post.

rara avis 06-02-2012 02:48 AM

Niniane,
Hey, I wish I had some magic words that would make the voices stop.
I'm going through something very similar at the moment.
Something that was suggested to me was to make a logic list, one that goes through the things the Voices are saying and uses logic to dispell each thing the Voices say. I hope that makes sense I'm not in the best head space right now.
Thinking of you

Niniane 06-02-2012 10:10 AM

I'm sorry you're going through something similar.
Thank you very much for the tip, it's actually a pretty good idea! I'll keep it in mind!


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