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Pnuemonia[Blue] 09-04-2010 07:16 PM

Intrusive thoughts
 
My voices are not voices as such but thought that seem to be coming from someone else.
Thoughts I can't control and are in someone else voice both men and women. Does anyone else get this?

The thoughts tell me to harm myself over and over again until I get so tired and worn down that I give into them. They've started up again and I don't know what to do about them.

Mental health professionals keep calling them voices but they aren't, there thoughts that I can't control xx

Kitkat :) 09-04-2010 07:19 PM

Are you sure they're not voices?
I thought the same when I was hearing things in my head in different voices, and I thought I was maybe having uncontrolled thoughts but then I split into my others (you'll see who they are in the signature)
I've had repetitive voices telling me to cut myself over and over again, and then I realised it was Ayka, because I have other dissociative symptoms.
If they are thoughts you can't control, why do you think you are having them and what makes you think you can't control them?

Pnuemonia[Blue] 09-04-2010 07:33 PM

I can't seem to control them because when I try to think about things they intrude and I can't seem to get them to stop.
they tell me things like my foods being poisoned or my mother isn't who she says she is and I believe them. For a while they become my reality, despite knowing it's not logical or rational.

Kitkat :) 09-04-2010 07:38 PM

I see... I've had thoughts like this, all my life, but when I've thought about getting them to stop they've stopped.
It sounds like you're still in touch with reality because you know that they're illogical and irrational.
Are you experiencing high levels of stress?
Like, I don't wanna intrude or be nosy, but what have you already been diagnosed with? It could be linked off of that. (You don't have to answer that if you don't want to)

Pnuemonia[Blue] 09-04-2010 07:44 PM

I've been diagnosed with BPD. my cpn said it was pseudo psychosis which I looked up and it described a psychosis that is self inflicted or made up.

Why would I want to be psychotic? I keep trying to tell them that I don't hear voices!!!

Stellata 09-04-2010 07:46 PM

My understanding of pseudo/quasi psychosis is that is when you are able to have insight into the hallucination/voice, that you're aware it comes from within you.

Kitkat :) 09-04-2010 07:53 PM

It's not that you intentionally want to be psychotic, its just that you are not deceived by them.

Pnuemonia[Blue] 09-04-2010 07:55 PM

ah thank you Stellata, I looked up quasi psychosis and it made a lot more sense as it has a link with bpd. It would also explain why people keep asking me if I've been really stressed (which I guess deep down I have been).

Stellata 09-04-2010 07:57 PM

Yes, stress can intensify/cause such experiences. It certainly does for me. [although I've not been diagnosed with BPD.]

Kitkat :) 09-04-2010 07:57 PM

Ahhh, it does make sense now.
I thought it might be linked with your BPD and stress... I thought I had psychotic depression cos I had the symptoms of it and it was linked to stress.
A lot of psychotic illnesses are, among other environmental and genetic factors.
You were probably not consciously stressed, so were not aware of it :)

Sunshine 09-04-2010 08:55 PM

I get them aswell (my brother and sister) and i tried explaining to my team that they are thoughts but they decided they were voices so in the end i just call them voices to stop me having to explain it over and over again! but i tried for like 4 months.

i just deal with it like my own thoughts, try to rationalise them but i understand how difficult it can be *hugs*

xxx

Cally 09-04-2010 09:31 PM

I've only heard 'voices' twice. The first they were telling me that I was a fat ugly bitch, the other time they were begging me to harm. Don't really know what that means

xXMessedUpXx 10-04-2010 09:17 PM

I have the same thing. they are thoughts not voices but don't feel like they are mine. I also have BPD. I tend to get the bad thoughts when stressed-it triggers them.

Cally 10-04-2010 10:03 PM

Yeah mine aren't really voices either but they don't feel like they're coming from me and voices seems the best way to describe them, they spoke a lot today

shadow-light 10-04-2010 11:35 PM

I get something like this... at first psychs thought it was psychosis, but then after a while (and after a few other symptoms had come to light) they sent me to see a dissociation specialist and it ended up being linked to that.

Pnuemonia[Blue] 12-04-2010 03:08 PM

Thank you for the replies, they are really helpful.

The thoughts are getting really bad and I'm feeling increasingly unsafe.

Kitkat :) 13-04-2010 03:15 PM

If you feel that you're going to do anything take yourself to your nearest hospital or call a helpline or something...
In what way are they getting worse?
Are they getting louder or is the subject of the thoughts becoming more violent?

Cally 13-04-2010 07:39 PM

Sorry to hear that I know how it is.

I just try to block them but that isn't easy.

(Hugs) xxxx


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