"Am-Dram"
 

I've never really heard anyone say either, but I think it's fair enough, it's just an abbreviation really.

Also, I know how annoying the whole "you're posh" because of where you come from thing is.

i tihnk thewhole am-dram thing is quite middle classed i wouldnt say calling it that would be middle classed

I've never heard it called that untill now........

Never heard of Am-dram and I'm 'posh' apparently.

I'm not. You've met me. But yes. Not a clueee. =]

i think the majority of the people on this site are middle-class.
if you don't think youre middle-class, what class do you think you are? or do you prefer to not class yourself, in general?

likewise.

I prefer not to class myself

no idea what am-dram means, well until you said.

Does sound quite posh, to be honest.. =P

Nvere heard of ittt.

I second this.


"I prefer not to class myself"
Why?

Ive called it am dram before.and yeh im probably in the middle class category....not bothered by it tbh.

even if you are middle class, is that a problem?
there is nothing wrong with being well spoken
he's only having a joke around.

yes.
i was going to say the same thing.
i don't think being middle class is such a terrible thing (or a terrible thing at all). just be thankful you're not working class, ha.

this reminds me of an article we had to read for sociology once called "nobody likes the middle classes!" &my friend was like "awhh. i feel really sorry for them now."
&i said to her: "uh, you are middle class, you idiot."

Some people are so quick to say people are of a certain class sometimes, and base what they're saying on a few very select things. That really does my head in. Plus, everyone tends to have different views on who's in what class, depending on where they come from, what they're used to, and so forth.

They all come with negative stereotypes, you can't seem to win! Best to avoid it as much as possible, haha.

"Am-dram", can't say I've ever heard of it either - not that "amateur dramatics" comes up much for me anyway.

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I think Am-Dram is more used if you or someone you know is in the business, like if you or someone you know does amatuer dramatics then theyre more than likely to know.use the phrase.

i think i read that.

the best sociology thing i read though was called "putting the FUNK in functionalism"

i laughed so much.

I call it am-dram.. and im most definately not middle class.
am poor working class i think.

My dad is in an Am-dram society and is a jobless alcoholic, who lives in a council house paid for by benifits.

this isnt really relevant.. other than i guess you call it different things depending on where youre from, the friends you have etc etc.

This sounds like silly guy stuff (SGS) - meant to be teasey/provocative for conversation/attention sake. I used to work the door at an Irish Pub and used to hear buckets of such slop regularly. After a few months of it I could not even take people seriously with 84% of whatever they said. When surveying a full room, I imagined comic balloons over people's heads and filled with "yada yada yada yada" like Charlie Browns rents. Keep in mind its a growing middle class that helped distinguish society from the dark ages. No society gets far on aristocrats and paupers.

I was going to say this.

Personally i've never said it but i think thats more to do with the fact that i've never been or known anyone involved with amatuer dramatics than the fact that i'm live on a council estate and my parents both have poor health and are unable to work so get benefits.

I was thinking about this earlier on the train (random, yes..) & I came up with pretty much what Olivia (?) - griddlebone - said too.

If you're involved in amateur dramatics or know someone who is, you're more likely to call it 'am-dram'.

But I dunno, I suppose I see the whole amateur dramatics thing as middle class. & I know that that's probably far from the case, but it's just something I've assumed.

Therefore it sounds posh to me, whether you say 'am-dram' or 'amateur dramatics'.

Just my opinion though ;)
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I was exactally the same for a very long time. My mum is a teacher so I was brought up speaking correctly.

Then I moved and it all went out the window.

Dicky!

I'm a cockney bastard.


Yea, i'm middle class...

I'd never heard that expression before, I read the title of the thread and thought it was another way of saying "Hum-drum" meaning like, boring, haha.
Shows you how middle class I am.. as in.. not very at all.

'mon the working class losers :P
It can be fun to be poor.. right?

wjats wrong with working class?
I'm working class.
My parents are.
Still don't know how/why I'm at uni.
Pah.

Cheers Linda :-p

i dont know the difference between working class and middle class. do middle class people not work?

i genuinely dont know the difference.

There are so many ways to define it. It's still debated by different professional-type people.. So we have no chance of giving a solid definition! =P

Nowadays class seems such an arbitrary distinction. For example some people would see lottery winners as still being working class even though they have millions.
I used to do "Am-Dram" when I was younger, wouldn't consider it posh at all, but if he was a member of an operatic society... :-P .
This whole class thing bugs me, I've had people be awful to me at uni because I didn't go to a private school, calling me common. I'd just tell that guy to grow up to be honest.

My friend's parents used to go on about how they were really 'working class' and like look down on my for having a 'middle class' family (which in fact my parents have WORKED for, in the sense that neither of my parents grew up with much money and when I was younger they couldn't even afford basic stuff for me) yet they were a pair of university lecturers both with PhDs that built their own house. Hypercritical much?

As a very, very, general idea - the typical stereotype is that working class tends to be inner-city, blue-collar workers, who don't really have that much money, don't tend to borrow much (because of the instability of paying it back), with children who go straight into work aged 16 or 18.
The middle-class stereotype is that they tend to have white-collar city-jobs, live in the suburbs, have one or two children who go to a grammar or private school, children will go to university, and will have music lessons, ballet or rugby, go on trips to the theatre or to art galleries.

Think The Times vs. The Sun, Waitrose vs. Asda, Villa in some quiet town in the south of Spain vs. package deal holiday to Tenerife, Polo vs. football - just for some general stereotypes.

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i'm working class too. so it's coooool.
or well, i was.
maybe i'm not anymore. i'm somewhere in the middle (Y).

i could go off on a sociological rant about how saying "the middle class" is perhaps less useful nowadays & how maybe we should talk about "the middle classES" but i just can't be bothered.

:)

im not working class or middle class then. im working/middle class.

hmmm

Thing is, they're very much outdated stereotypes - there are so many variations now, and although there is still some sort of vague class system, it's not nearly as prominent as it used to be.
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haha. i remember that.
good ol' a-level sociology.

the only subject i was ever good at. :)

I remember that stuff too. Well, I remember it being mentioned. Can't say I listened enough.. =\

Amateur dramatics - which yes, as a matter of habit I refer to as am-dram - is by no means a specifically middle class thing. These days, it is often a way for aspiring actors to build up experience before having a shot in the professional field. 'Am-dram' is, as others have said, likely to be the term used by those who've done it - it's also something of a luvvie thing.

Pfft... To be honest this whole Am-Dram, Middle-class, Working-class thing confuses me so much!

I don't mean to be horrible, by why the hell does it matter if you are working class or middle class? As I see it, it is neither something to be proud of neither something to sneer at, it is just an outdated stereotype.

I mean... someone stop me if I am wrong but aren't "Am-Dram" and "A Drama Club" basically the same thing? I bet if you said you went to "A Drama Club" you would say it was more working class and "Am-Dram" would be thought of as middle class?

Pfft, the whole thing is rediculous! It's just a hobby.

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