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Feel_Good_inc. 19-02-2013 01:09 PM

Vegetarians, a quick question
 
How cocky have you been lately? :-p
With all these stories about contaminated meat, more details coming out every day.
It's been a good time to be a vegetarian.

BridgesAndBalloons 19-02-2013 02:46 PM

:laugh: I haven't felt cocky, although I did feel bad for my partner as I'd been buying him burgers that had horse meat in them, which unnerved him slightly so we switched to other brands. I'm sure he's forgiven me though :P

talaiporia 19-02-2013 03:35 PM

I'm sticking to meat-free until this saga blows over.
That said, looking at the lists, and thinking back to what mum fed me at Christmas, I quite enjoyed my Horse Lasagne!

Wonderland. 19-02-2013 03:40 PM

Did you know that eating horse turns you into a horse. True fact :tongue2:

talaiporia 19-02-2013 03:42 PM

Nooooo---neeeiiiiggghhhhhhhh!

Cacoethes 19-02-2013 03:43 PM

No, the veggies got uniquorn instead.

Lololol

Wonderland. 19-02-2013 03:44 PM

Hahaha, uniquorns and horses be roaming this world.

__T 19-02-2013 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Senator Aardvark (Post 3511539)
No, the veggies got uniquorn instead.

Lololol

Would've been rude to leave them out of this scandal.


Trololol.

Off note: Horse is very nice.

whirlpools 19-02-2013 04:32 PM

I felt really cocky until my dad told me there was horse meat in baked beans :plain:

Pops. 19-02-2013 04:45 PM

I genuinely just googled "Horse meat in Baked Beans" >.>

Greyscale 19-02-2013 04:48 PM

While we haven't had a horse meat scandal in the US (at this point), I have been following this. I think the thing I'd be really concerned about is whether these horses had been given bute, dewormers, or other such things, which can cause fairly serious human health issues as they stay in the horse's body for a while and would be present in the meat.. I don't know if you guys have stronger regulations about that than we do, but if it happened here that would be a serious concern of mine. If the horses were raised for meat and/or had not been exposed to things that are toxic for humans it probably isn't something to be concerned about. Either way I still wouldn't choose to eat horse.

Rodolphus 19-02-2013 04:56 PM

To be fair, if you eat one animal, you can eat 'em all. I say this as a meat eater. People eat cow's stomachs and pigs feet and bull's testicles, you may as well throw a horse in there.

Cacoethes 19-02-2013 04:57 PM

I'm not particularly bothered about the horse meat itself, as greyscale said, id be concerned about things like bute and dewormers and such

Killer Queen 19-02-2013 04:59 PM

I just bought a load of veggie mince yesterday, I'm not keen on the idea of being duped into eating something that isn't what it says it is.

Plus I can just shove it in the freezer and use it bit by bit! <possible conversion in pipeline>

Eccentrics 19-02-2013 05:17 PM

Although I'm a meat-eater, I'm not a big fan of beef or pork products so I can smugly say that I have not eaten horse!

I wouldn't care though to be honest if I had. I don't think I'd be disgusted by the idea of eating any kind of meat - within reason - as it all seems the same to me! I do however try to limit myself to chicken and fish wherever possible because I feel like a hypocrite eating something that I wouldn't be able to kill myself.

whirlpools 19-02-2013 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kismet. (Post 3511584)
I genuinely just googled "Horse meat in Baked Beans" >.>

Hehe oops, sorry! I believed him too for a few minutes :D

Amaryllis 19-02-2013 05:35 PM

I might be weird, but I like horse. And rabbit and deer.

makedamnsure 19-02-2013 06:07 PM

I'm veggie.
In my opinion eating horse is no different to eating cow, pig etc.

But - as others have mentioned the fact that no-one knew what they were eating and the horses were most likely treated with all sorts of stuff it's not a good situation at all.

Cacoethes 19-02-2013 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amaryllis (Post 3511636)
I might be weird, but I like horse. And rabbit and deer.

Rabbit and deer are yummy!
Haven't tried horse (that I know of) :p

OneForSorrow 19-02-2013 06:24 PM

Everyone has HATED me recently :P I've always been vegetarian, and have only eaten meat by accident - woe! So now it's my turn to be like "OH YEAH! It's not nice when you eat things by mistake is it?!" (My friends smugged meat under my pizza once :( ) I'm obviously not bitter at all..

Edit: I do also agree though, that to me, meat is meat, whatever animal it comes from! Although obviously it's the not knowing it was there, and not knowing what else could be in food that we're unaware of

__T 19-02-2013 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Senator Aardvark (Post 3511679)
Rabbit and deer are yummy!
Haven't tried horse (that I know of) :p

I concur.

Horse is similar to deer, but sweeter.

BridgesAndBalloons 19-02-2013 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rodolphus (Post 3511595)
To be fair, if you eat one animal, you can eat 'em all. I say this as a meat eater. People eat cow's stomachs and pigs feet and bull's testicles, you may as well throw a horse in there.

Quote:

Originally Posted by makedamnsure (Post 3511665)
I'm veggie.
In my opinion eating horse is no different to eating cow, pig etc.

I'm vegetarian and don't really see how eating any one animal is all that different from eating another either, even in regards to dogs and cats, people might consider them pets in certain cultures but others consider them food. However, I do appreciate that you want to know exactly what you're eating, I can imagine if I was eating something to then find out it wasn't veggie I'd be very upset.

Gone. 19-02-2013 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by makedamnsure (Post 3511665)
I'm veggie.
In my opinion eating horse is no different to eating cow, pig etc.

This.

Someone told me there was horse meat in Quorn the other day. I nearly died.

I did have to rub this in my parent's faces though, just because... :D

BridgesAndBalloons 19-02-2013 10:31 PM

Apparently Quorn has been doing well since the horse meat scandal broke and has reported a rise in sales since January, I suppose people are more trusting that there's definitely no horse in their products lol.

pixiedust_11 19-02-2013 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demons To Some (Post 3511744)
I'm vegetarian and don't really see how eating any one animal is all that different from eating another either, even in regards to dogs and cats, people might consider them pets in certain cultures but others consider them food. However, I do appreciate that you want to know exactly what you're eating, I can imagine if I was eating something to then find out it wasn't veggie I'd be very upset.


I agree with this. I have felt slightly smug being one of the only vegetarians among my family/friends but at the same time I'm a bit annoyed by the people who are flapping over it, when in my eyes meat is meat and if you can eat one then you can certainly eat another. That said, as has been mentioned I guess it's unnerving being lied to about what you're eating. Nonetheless, that's partially why I'm veggie in the first place.

effervescence 20-02-2013 05:17 AM

I also agree that eating horse is no different, ethically, to eating cow, deer, goat, pig, chicken, lamb etc.
Apart from taste :p
The French eat horse all the time.
I find the fuss amusing, and wouldn't be concerned if I'd eaten any. All animals get treated with various antibiotics, chemicals etc.

persephoneginger 20-02-2013 05:41 AM

I agree with many of the above, that horse is no different. Drives me crazy when people don't understand how fish/seafood is meat...

Even though I'm vegetarian I would totally eat meat again if I/someone I know raised and butchered it themselves. I also have no qualms, and basically support, my friends who eat organic, naturally raised, hormone free, local, naturally fed, happy animals. More power to them for supporting the happy and healthy meat industry :]

effervescence 20-02-2013 06:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by persephoneginger (Post 3512213)
Drives me crazy when people don't understand how fish/seafood is meat...

Same! Nothing more ridiculous than "I'm a vegetarian but I eat fish."
So you won't eat one living, breathing animal but you'll eat another?

persephoneginger 20-02-2013 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by effervescence (Post 3512216)
Same! Nothing more ridiculous than "I'm a vegetarian but I eat fish."
So you won't eat one living, breathing animal but you'll eat another?

Mmhmmm!! If they're going to do it they might as well get the word right. They aren't vegetarians, they're pescatarians. But I still think it's hypocritical. Better than my grandma though who keeps thinking I'll eat chicken, because somehow that's not an animal? O.o haha!

whirlpools 20-02-2013 09:05 AM

How is it hypocritical to be pescetarian?

Gone. 20-02-2013 09:10 AM

It's hypocritical because someone can't say they don't eat meat/animal and then eat a fish. I think that's why the word hypocrite was used. However, it largely depends on values as some people are pescetarian because of different reasons that aren't related to animal rights. I have genuinely considered being pescetarian for my health as I know fish is good for me but I couldn't bring myself to do it.

It does annoy me when I say that I am vegetarian and people ask if I eat fish!

pixiedust_11 20-02-2013 09:17 AM

^^ I used to eat fish, until my science teacher told me I wasn't a real vegetarian, so I gave that up too. I think it's more frustrating when people don't use the correct terms. There's nothing wrong with pescetarianism, but I can understand the frustration as I'm always asked things like "So do you eat chicken then?"

whirlpools 20-02-2013 09:21 AM

I appreciate that, but I don't think it's hypocritical to say you're pescetarian, for the reasons you mentioned that people have all sorts of different reasons for not eating meat, but eating fish, which I distinguish in the terms of meat generally being known to be land animal flesh - rather than fish not being animal, if you get what I mean.

BridgesAndBalloons 20-02-2013 11:06 AM

I don't think it's hypocritical to be pescatarian.

I personally think it's incorrect for a person to describe themselves as vegetarian when they eat fish/chicken as there is already a term for that, pescatarian/pollotarian. So I don't think there's a real need to say "I'm vegetarian but...", but that's just my personal opinion.

pixiedust_11 20-02-2013 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demons To Some (Post 3512342)
I don't think it's hypocritical to be pescatarian.

I personally think it's incorrect for a person to describe themselves as vegetarian when they eat fish/chicken as there is already a term for that, pescatarian/pollotarian. So I don't think there's a real need to say "I'm vegetarian but...", but that's just my personal opinion.


I agree with this. It's just about using the correct terminology really.

Cacoethes 20-02-2013 11:19 AM

I used to be pescetarian but described myself as vegetarian simply because not everyone knows what a pescetarian is and I ceeb to explain it to people!


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