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Sugar and Spice
12-03-2008, 12:08 PM
Sorry this is long, feel free to comment x

F*cking ridiculous.
You are just so blind. This is not real. That is real. This is what you want to think. That is what you should be thinking. You should be thinking this as it is real.

Reality is not what we think. It is what is actual. It is what is true. It's not a case of "well, this is real for me" because truth doesn't work like that. Truth is tangible. Truth does not have any grey areas. Truth is not something which can be manipulated. Truth is truth. Everything else is false. It's false regardless of how you dress it up. Saying things like "well, it is a shade of the truth" is not acceptable. Truth is truth. It doesn't have shades of grey or shadows. Truth is not a blend of truth and fiction. That is fiction. That is false.

Society is falling to pieces in a ridiculous mess of bureaucracy, political correctness and the need to label things, animals and people. You are a reflection of this. You have fallen victim to this way of being. Now, it can be argued that it's your own d.amn fault and that the world merely accomodated the role of the victim you seem intent on playing. I think it's partly that and partly that you have adopted the ways of society as a whole and applied them, in a way which suits your wants, to yourself.

It amazes me just how misguided people are. I mean, a large number of occupational psychologists don't seem to actually do anything psychological in their position. You can do a psych undergrad degree, specialise in occupational psych and all to become a health and safety jobsworth. These are the people that make you put a sign up warning people of a wet surface because they aren't observant or careful enough. These are the ones that tell you you can't have decent knives to use when preparing food at a youth group because someone may cut themselves by accident. A prison psychologist is more concerned with ticking boxes and ensuring that the prisoners aren't bullying each other than how well they respond to treatment. If someone commits a crime while extremely drunk and has no education - therefore no job and therefore no flat/house of their own - we should put them in a treatment program for anger management as he obviously has anger problems and a treatment program for alcohol abuse because he got extremely drunk once before we consider giving him the opportunity to get an education. It's so twisted. I could not believe my ears when they turned around and tried telling us that prisoners can suffer PTSD from their own actions.

The mentality today is that we must diagnose everybody with something and often multiple things. It's easier to put the more unusual/negative things down to a mental health problem than to actually accept that people come in different forms. Some of us have a little ritual that we do for luck, some of us feel inferior to everyone else because we have always felt like that, some of us cut to help us get through the tough times. None of this makes us crazy. None of this makes us mentally ill. What makes someone mentally ill is a significant interference with how we live and go about our everyday tasks. We may cut, but that isn't the mental illness. It would be the depression which prevents us from washing ourselves etc that is the mental illness. If we have periods of thinking that we are fat and should stop eating because of this, that is not a mental illness. If we find ourselves limiting what we eat etc because of our ED, that is the mental illness. Just because you like to keep your bathroom symetrical and tidy but this does not expand to any other area, then you are not mentally ill. Just because someone drinks regularly does not mean that they are an alcoholic. They are only an alcoholic if they find it difficult to go without drink, if they drink for certain reasons etc. See a pattern emerging?

I have noticed one within and outside of the mental health service. Professionals trying to implant ideas into people's head just so they can stick a label on them and say "Ah-ha! I've got it. It's this and now I can give you this treatment." People convincing and diagnosing themselves before they have even seen a professional. More than half the things people diagnose themselves with are false, I'm pretty sure.

chocostashchick
12-03-2008, 02:43 PM
hey Carole hun
i agree with you completely
unfortunately i don't have any wise words of wisdom, but i think you are spot on about the conundrum of diagnosis and mental illness and where the lines in impaired functioning are

mostly it makes me feel confused

hope it was nice to get that off your chest and that ranting helped! sometimes nothing is as therapeutic as a good vent ;)

Casper_Fading
12-03-2008, 11:44 PM
I think that there are different truths for different things. Something that may be true for one person may not be true for others. Life can't be black and white, it's a wonderful mix up of shades of grey! What is true about somethign for my friend is not true about that same thing for me. It's possible for truths to have different shades and different levels. But that is true for me. It may be different for you. I don't know if that makes any sense or not. Truth is black and white doesn't work when you take in the fact that people are not black and white. Life is not black and white. SOmethings may be the same truth for different people but many things are different as well.

ANyways i don't mean to go on and on! *hugs* Keep talking to us!

Jess

Sugar and Spice
12-03-2008, 11:59 PM
The truth is something which is tangible. The truth is that Hitler was Austrain but managed to legally gain dictatorship. The truth is that he murdered millions of people (not only Jews). To say otherwise is to add a hint of fiction. By adding fiction you are transforming it from truth to fiction. Just like I suffer from depression. That is a fact. Another fact is that I, on occassion, self harm. To say otherwise is to create a shade of grey and, by doing so, another false.

Truth is objective, not subjective.

Casper_Fading
13-03-2008, 12:10 AM
Truth can be subjective. Truth hitler (scarily) was one of the greatest leaders the world has ever know, same as stalin. But is that really "true". He brought thousands of people to follow him in his bid to make the world a 'perfect place'. In Hitlers mind that was truth, that what he was doing was right and good. We look at it differently. In truth to US what he did was evil nd wrong and nooooooooooooot good. But our truths are different. They are subjective. Truth is not always the same. Becasue people are not always the same. How can you say that your truth is right and their truth is wrong?

Sugar and Spice
13-03-2008, 12:18 AM
In his mind it was true, but in reality it was not. The truth is that, excluding the groups he persecuted, he did provide for the German public better than the previous government had. That is the truth. To call him a monster is false. To call him one of the greatest leader is false. This is because either way actual facts are being left out.
I am not claiming to have a truth seperate to yours or anyone elses. I am saying that truth is universal. Our perceptions of truth are clouded by emotions, false facts, incomplete facts etc. Our perceptions of what is true are often off the mark and, as such, are false.

blondiebear
13-03-2008, 04:13 AM
Feeling and senses are subjective. I've had too many people call me a wimp. It wears. Yeah, my skin is sensitive to pain. I can also feel a fabric for a few seconds and have a good idea about what it is made of.

I am not able to lie. I can select which truths I want to tell.
I've also read that history is written by the winners.