Weird Panic Attacks

[Electra223k]

I keep having these weird panic attacks, and I don't know why they're like that.

Usually I have the normal type of panic attack where my chest is tight and I'm short on breath. But recently I've been having these different ones.

I still have the normal ones but when I'm really distress I have these weird ones where I can't control myself.

I lose control of my body and often start saying things that make no sense. Sometimes I'll move my body in awkward ways or just slowly lower myself to the ground. Sometimes I say things that make no sense, like it'll be a proper sentence but it doesn't match with what's going on then and there.

The most common thing that happens though is that I'll devolve in gibberish saying completely made up words or I'll repeat the same sound over and over again (like I'll say "of, of, of, of, of, of' or 'is, is, is, is, is, is, is')

It's weird because my mind is perfectly clear and it can think rationally, but my body seems to have a mind of it's own and I can't control it. Also, afterwards it's hard for me to remember just what happened; only bits and pieces are what I can recall.

I tried looking up what happened to me and I've found other people who describe having similar incidents. However, nobody seems to be able to explain why such a phenomenon happens or what it's cause is.

So, I was hoping that someone here could tell me what's going on. I can't find the answer but maybe somebody here has some insight.

[sherlock holmes]

Have you seen a doctor? Do you feel panicky/anxious when it happens?

I'm wondering if its a type of seizure rather than a panic attack, though of course you'd need to see a doctor about it.

[Electra223k]

No I haven't seen a doctor, and as I explained in my post, this only happens when I'm really stressed out.

I don't think anything is medically wrong with me, or if there it has to be connected to stress is some way. It's unlikely it's a seizure cause I've seen seizures before and this was nothing like one.

[sherlock holmes]

Typical seizures are not like what you experience, but partial seizures and other type of seizures can be.

You can't rule anything out until you see a doctor! Otherwise I don't really know what to suggest. You posted asking if any of us knew what was happening, but none of us are doctors and we cannot sit and diagnose you.

[Electra223k]

Yeah, I know about other kinds of seizures too. Again, this wasn't like that.

Wasn't looking for a diagnosis. Just wondering if anybody had ever experience that before.

[Snow White.]

Are you considering getting checked out? It might be a good idea with these symptoms, it's not something I've commonly seen associated with just anxiety. And in any case if you have such severe anxiety it might help to talk about it.

[Electra223k]

I would get checked out or talk to someone, only if someone would give me a good reason to.

[sherlock holmes]

Is your health not a good enough reason?

[Cacoethes]

There are over 40 different types of seizure so you can't rule it out.

[Steel Maiden]

I have multiple neurological problems and I agree with others - get checked out. I suffered for years due to not going to the doctors soon enough.

[Electra223k]

Is your health not a good enough reason?
No.

[Unbreakable.]

What would be a good reason to see a doctor?

[Steel Maiden]

No.

That doesn't make logical sense.

[Electra223k]

What would be a good reason to see a doctor?
If someone could give me a reason why they think it's a seizure. It's like an eight hour wait for a check up, and it could be months wait for an appointment.

I can't go around wasting doctor's time and my time looking for a seizure diagnosis when this is likely something psychological.

I'll go check in with a doctor but only if somebody can point me in the direction of a diagnosis that even remotely sounds like this, cause if it's a psychological problem I don't want to get into my head that something is physically wrong with me.

[Snow White.]

Well if it's a psychological problem then you really should see a doctor anyway because it's a severe reaction.

To me it sounds neurological. I would strongly advise a check up to rule anything out and frankly just to get the opinion of someone properly trained.

I'm not going to tell you a potential diagnosis because I'm not the one trained for that. You want a diagnosis on what it is? See a doctor.

[Electra223k]

I already said I didn't bring start this topic so I could get a diagnosis. I also don't think it's any sort of neurological problem.
The reason I ask for something specific is because people are claiming it's a seizure or a neurological problem, but can't give me any reason to think it's either of those things.

[Snow White.]

You just said:

I'll go check in with a doctor but only if somebody can point me in the direction of a diagnosis that even remotely sounds like this

So it sounds like you're wanting a diagnosis, at least a provisional one.
The fact we can't give you one is more reason to get checked out!


So, I was hoping that someone here could tell me what's going on. I can't find the answer but maybe somebody here has some insight.


Okay.
It DOESN'T sound like anxiety.
It DOES sound neurological.
I can't tell you EXACTLY what because I'm not a neurologist.
I have experience with individuals who have had neurological illnesses and episodes.
The things that concern me most are the speech symptoms, losing control, moving your body in strange ways and inability to remember. These typically do not occur with panic attacks.

You want an idea of what it could be? Get checked out. If it's anxiety, good to know, if it's not, you've done yourself a big favour by finding out early before lasting damage happens.

Oh, and I have experience in anxiety and diagnosis of that too. For what it is worth.

The only way to rule out if it is or isn't psychological is to get checked out. We can't give you more than that - but note someone here who has neurological problems has suggested you get it checked for that.

[Snow White.]

What makes you think it's not a neurological problem?

Which, I am not saying it is because we cannot diagnose here, I am saying it is worth investigating.

[Steel Maiden]

^ well said.

[sherlock holmes]

You only have a couple of options really. Either you carry on assuming it's panic attacks and find a way of coping with it yourself, or listen to us when we say in our experience we've never seen a typical panic attack have the symptoms you have describe and that it sounds more serious and potentially neurological.

As Snow White said you need to see a doctor either way as either it IS a panic attack and you're having really, really extreme ones for which you need help, or you have a neurological disorder for which you need treating.

The third option is to do nothing and hope it goes away, which I seriously do not advise.

[Electra223k]

Maybe I should stop here since this is just going around and around in circles, but I'll try one more time.

You just said:



So it sounds like you're wanting a diagnosis, at least a provisional one.
The fact we can't give you one is more reason to get checked out!




Okay.
It DOESN'T sound like anxiety.
It DOES sound neurological.
I can't tell you EXACTLY what because I'm not a neurologist.
I have experience with individuals who have had neurological illnesses and episodes.
The things that concern me most are the speech symptoms, losing control, moving your body in strange ways and inability to remember. These typically do not occur with panic attacks.

You want an idea of what it could be? Get checked out. If it's anxiety, good to know, if it's not, you've done yourself a big favour by finding out early before lasting damage happens.

Oh, and I have experience in anxiety and diagnosis of that too. For what it is worth.

The only way to rule out if it is or isn't psychological is to get checked out. We can't give you more than that - but note someone here who has neurological problems has suggested you get it checked for that.

I asked for a diagnosis because people were diagnosing me. People say "we won't give you a diagnosis, but all along they're saying, it's a seizure or it's a neurological disorder.
You mean, people telling me it's either of those things isn't a diagnosis already.

Look, if you seen something like this before and it was a illness, fine tell me, it'd be good to know. If you're just making random suggestions then keep them to yourself. I came here to find people who I could relate to, not to get vague dismissive answers.

What makes you think it's not a neurological problem?

Which, I am not saying it is because we cannot diagnose here, I am saying it is worth investigating.

I never said I think it's not a neurological problem, I said I have no reason to think that it is. I don't believe it is a neurological problem and I don't believe it's not.

I do, however, think it's unlikely because there's a much highly likelihood that it's a result of stress rather then illness.

My symptoms match no diagnosis, not one that I can find, it doesn't even resemble a neurological illness. Usually, when symptoms don't match anything, or if even one "symptom" is not a sign of anything in the medical world, it usually mean its the mind is playing tricks.

You only have a couple of options really. Either you carry on assuming it's panic attacks and find a way of coping with it yourself, or listen to us when we say in our experience we've never seen a typical panic attack have the symptoms you have describe and that it sounds more serious and potentially neurological.

As Snow White said you need to see a doctor either way as either it IS a panic attack and you're having really, really extreme ones for which you need help, or you have a neurological disorder for which you need treating.

The third option is to do nothing and hope it goes away, which I seriously do not advise.

I don't know. Every time I talk to somebody they either dismiss my problems or make assumptions about me.

What good does it do talking to people. Nobody believes me, I hardly believe myself. Plus, there's nothing that can stop the panic attacks. They're situation based and I can't control my situation.

[Iamcatbug]

So what do you want out of this thread?

People have suggested thing to help you and you've said you don't want to follow that advise.

And no one has said they think they can diagnose you, they've said from their personal experience they have never witnessed panic attacks like you've described and advice you that maybe you should seek help from someone who is medically trained.

I don't think people are saying they don't believe you here, just that you need more support than an Internet forum can give.

[Electra223k]

I was hoping to find if anybody could report having the same experience as me. That hasn't happened.

[Steel Maiden]

That's because it is not like a classic panic attack. I wouldn't expect people to have the same migraine attacks like me here because I don't have classic migraine attacks.