Crisis Team, Hospital and BPD (Borderline)

[motionless]

I have found on the last two occasions when I have needed them the crisis team have refused to take me on due to my Borderline diagnoses... Has this happened to anybody else? What can I say to them to convince them I need them? Is it the same everywhere or just where I live (down south) I really struggle this time of year and the crisis team would have been a huge help. I feel really let down...

Also last time I was admitted to the ward I was made to sign a contract saying that I would not attempt self harm and suicide and that if I did I would be discharged? (That is exactly what happened) how can they be allowed to do this? Surely the reason they put me there in the first place was because of these things so to kick me out over it seem.... ridiculous.

I have been told by others in my area it's down to my Borderline diagnosis.. I was happy when It got changed from Bipolar as it seemed more fitting, but since the change my care seems to have gone massively down hill and I feel like I am being discriminated against because of my diagnosis. Has anybody else experienced this?

xx

[talaiporia]

I think that's rather unusual if it's due to the BPD diagnosis rather than need. Lots of people here have BPD and are under the crisis teams so it certainly isn't usual. Did they say it was because of your diagnosis?

Although, my parents live down on the south coast and we don't have much of an OOH/crisis service (I imagine because it's more rural) and you just call the police in an emergency/crisis, so perhaps they've turned you down due to lack of resource?

[sherlock holmes]

Sometimes people with BPD can be treated with "tough love" if the MH team think that being in crisis is not a true crisis, but feeling abandoned due to BPD and seeking attention.

My old CPN had this view, back when my diagnosis was BPD, and it hurt. My suicidal feelings were true regardless of the reasoning behind them.

Can you speak to an advocate about this? They are independent and will act on your behalf and try to get the right support put in place for you. Speak to your local Patient Advice and Liaison Service (PALS)

[when.will.it.end]

I've been discharged for self harm/attempting suicide on a ward so it does happen. Their mentality was that if you are hurting yourself on a ward then the admission clearly isn't working and you should therefore leave. I understand the point of view but personally don't agree with it. That being said my previous behaviour hasn't stopped me from getting further admissions.

[youonlyliveonce]

How does having the crisis team in loved help...

What do you want from an admission

[Serendipity.]

I would say it isn't unusual. I don't know what crisis help is like where I live, having not had a serious crisis since moving here, but I know that having a BPD diagnosis has barred me from receiving any non-crisis help. It is beyond ridiculous.

What kind of help do you have at the moment? I think talking to someone about it would be a good idea, as they may be able to explain better. It may be that there are other reasons involved that you're unaware of.

If you do have concerns that you're not receiving the care that you need, I agree with getting an advocate involved.

Remember that there are always places you can turn for support, whether that is RYL, the Samaritans or another helpline. Look after yourself.

[Arienette]

I feel like I am being discriminated against because of my diagnosis. Has anybody else experienced this?

I've had this exact same problem. I'm not sure why they do it, or what they think it solves. Im not sure but I don't fully understand the dx either.

[BattlingMyMind]

Sorry I might be able to help much, I've heard this happening a lot and it's horrid. It's a diagnosis and therefore an ILLNESS. You don't choose to be like it and people who feel suicidal should be taken seriously!
Sorry it really annoys me!! your worthy of help! and deserve it. If there is a independent place you can complain to then please try. xx stay strong xx

[whirlpools]

I'd say it's definitely worth clarifying with your team that the reluctance to work with you is down to your diagnosis. I'm certainly not saying it isn't - sadly that does happen - it's just that they might have different concerns.

I have BPD and have been well treated by services. It seems disgusting that some people aren't, often based on location.

I wonder if it's worth Googling a few documents. I'd suggest 'Personality Disorder - No Longer a Diagnosis of Exclusion' and also the NICE guidelines for BPD. Not sure if they'll be of use but there might be some thing handy in there. I'm sure the NICE guidelines state that person should not be refused (mental health?) treatment because they have self harmed.

Also check out the PD charity Emergence.

[darlkill]

All the time I have had good experience with the crises team being in hospital and also had to sign a contract about not running away and self harming which worked