sorry i am in dire need of advice. I dont want clozapine but want too bne compliantt so i can leave hospital. The drs r saying the other aps i have taken havent worked and thay thy think only clozapine will. Now im not actually psychotic, in my opiomion. I was at a theraputic commumity where asinister man inititated some research on me under the orders of certain ppl. I was deeply depressed at one stage and went to the prory whilst being an ip at the tc. This man manipulated and influenced the drs there into thinkin i was psychotic. Ever since as a result peop.le have been giving me the wrpng treatment. now this is where the confusion sets in, the drs say its imperative to take an ip, the manager of the eip agrees and said i have needed significant help with psychosis. Bull ****. My dad says refuse all tablets. The ward nurses were saying they r shocked ive been put on clozapine. My nurse well shes confusing. A wise friend said not to take them.i want to leave here asap. So what do i do?
sticks and stones may break your bones but words can tear your heart out.
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I wish there was something I could do Flames. Research sounds horrible and stressful. I'm not really sure how it all works but like Steel Maiden says can you apply for a tribunal?
Some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money.
They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned or negotiated with.
Some men just want to watch the world burn.
Flames i dont think they would cause you to become psychotic. Sorry you're struggling so much. I was on a section 3 only a few months ago, so i know how horrible it is to be forced to take medication. I do agree with the others though, have you considered applying for a tribunal? I'm pretty sure everyone on a section 3 is entitled to and it might make you feel a bit more in control.
im going to get the advocate ro hwlp me start the process. Also im gona see another dr for a 2nd opinion. Its just very confusing, one eip nurse saying uve needed significant help with ur psychosis then nurses her saying im being put on the wrong meds. Ahh i dont know, i really dont. Thanks for all ur advice and support though guyys.
How is eberyone else?
sticks and stones may break your bones but words can tear your heart out.
Flames - That's good that you'll get someone to start the process for a tribunal things are when you have someone helping you with it. And if you disagree with the doctor yeah definitely get a second opinion.
I often wonder why my CPN bothered becoming one. I swear the sole purpose of my appointments with him is to give me exercise, make me walk from one side of town to another. Only to get there and have the shortest most pointless appointment ever, a questionnaire and a 5 minute talk. He could have just sent me the thing in the post and saved me the hassle of being all worked up walking through town. I wrote down everything that was going on... his response "oh that seems scary, I'll pass it on to the psychiatrist. Anything else? No? Ok appointments over then".
Now I remember why I gave up last year on them. Voices are bad today very loud, trying to drown out with music but I think it's annoying my neighbours. Not sure if they're knocking on the wall or I'm just hearing it.
Some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money.
They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned or negotiated with.
Some men just want to watch the world burn.
fire i am so very sorry you are being treated like that. We all here care but its the professionals who can help in more depth. I found out today you can refer yourself to the early intervention team. I feel a bit helpless. You really need to stand up for yourself as things cant go on like this frever.
Im pretty scared at the moment. I havent been able to get to my therapy sessions because ive been instructed to run under a car, not once but twice. Im trying to figure out what this test is because i had to jump from a height to protect my sister and i still cant walk properly so how on earth can i run? I know part of the test is to do with love maybe also determination to protect loved ones? I havent been off the ward for some time and its stressing me out. They're saying im a suicide risk but i dont want to die. If i die protecting my sister then thats not suicide. But i have to think of the car drivers. This is so confusing. They've targeted my family twice since they sent tjhe task. Sorry ill stop. The clozapine and clonazepam has made me sleep a lot today and i never sleep during the day
sticks and stones may break your bones but words can tear your heart out.
Flames - Apparently they applied to have me seen by an early intervention team but they've got such a big caseload it's going to be months before they see me. Basically all they're saying is sit tight and wait. So much for 'early' intervention.
Really stuck for ideas. Mood is so low today, voices are loud. Perhaps I should start taking the olanzapine again, give it another go. I've got lots of left over citalopram, I know sometimes olanzapine has fluoxetine co-prescribed to help very low moods which haven't responded to treatment before, if I substituted citalopram instead of fluoxetine would it still achieve a similar effect? Have found some scientific literature where it's been done before. I'm so fed up on my CPN not having any ideas or solutions and I'm at the end of my tether looking for things to help. Any ideas as to whether it may work?
Sorry to hear you haven't had any let up from the thoughts and tests yet. Are you settling ok on the clozapine?
Some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money.
They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned or negotiated with.
Some men just want to watch the world burn.
Hrm, Fire, did they suggest to come of the citalopram? I'm not surprised your feeling so low with everything going on. I feel alone to and literaly the weight of the world on my shoulders, makes me cry. I know its hard but be patient, keep asking/reminding them to chase it up. I was given anti-psychotics years ago im not going into it, anyway i was actually deeply depressed not psychotic but it did help life my mood and my thoughts became better, i was able to think again. I would say go back on the olanzapine, it makes you sluggish now but after a few months your body should build up a resistamce to it. if the drs ceased the citalopram well yeah, its your decision really but maybe phone your psych first just to double check its safe to do so. Not sleeping at night isn't going to help either but i understand your reasons.
The clozapine is going ok. But i never sleep during the day and despite having a whole nights sleep i took around 5 naps today. I feel to full of energy to get to sleep now, have no idea what will happen to my sleep pattern. I want to get a 2nd opinion but i think they will agree with the drs here because im in such a unusual situation people find it hard to believe.
I'm not being egotistical but im an intelligent person, kind of. I wouldnt go and set fire to my arm for the fun of it. It bloody hurt but i had to so that they don't target my sister.
I have no idea whether to apply for the tribuniral, i tried last time and they basically said i had no chance of winning. The drs here know how to manipulate people into their way of thinking. They are nice though, just treating me for the wrong illness. Self diagnosis isn't good though.
Hope you all have a nice day x
sticks and stones may break your bones but words can tear your heart out.
tamobhuuta - normally I just try to repeat over and over again until it sinks in. If I wish to persuade myself that something is false I usually say it over and over again until I eventually accept that fact.
Today has been relatively quiet compared to the past two weeks, it's a welcome relief I must say. Things are still there, but they've moved to the background for now. From tonight I'm trying the citalopram and olanzapine together I've decided. Read some medical journals and there aren't any dangerous interactions so there's nothing to lose from it.
Some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money.
They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned or negotiated with.
Some men just want to watch the world burn.
I'm a bit confused with whats going on at the moment. I don't know wether the researchers are starting another test or whether its because i dont need the clozapine. This may sound a bit strange but yeah. When people shut there eyes your not meant to see, it should be black or maybe bright because of the sun, but when i shut my eyes i see these scary looking faces and sometimes the patients and i expect them to be there when i open my eyes but there not. Obviously being stuck on the ward is boring but i cant sleep during the day. I dont know why this is to do with shutting my eyes but when i do people start talking to me inside my head, asking me questions etc and we have a conversation and then when i open my eyes it stops. Does anyone know whats going on? I can't think how this could be of an relevence for the researchers. I will bring it up with my dr but wanted to share here.
sticks and stones may break your bones but words can tear your heart out.
It is very real, i get really confused when i open my eyes and find myself in a room alone. Sorry you experience it to. I hope whoever they are say nice things to you and aren't mean. I wouldnt even be able to tell you what we speak about because well, how do you recall a whole conversation?
sticks and stones may break your bones but words can tear your heart out.
I don't mind most of the time, because some of the things they talk about are quite random and interesting. But if I try really hard to focus on it, it goes away sometimes, so I sort of just have to let it happen if I want to follow the conversation.
Flames that does sound awfully confusing and i'm glad your going to mention it to your doctor. Is it something that you find upsetting or just strange?
Sayuri, do you get any professional help. Is there a friend or anyone you can contact to be with you?
jen-x I'm not finding it upsetting, but it does startle me a bit when i expect x person to be sitting infront of me and there not. makes me feel disoreintated.
i just have a question, when going to the cinema, does anyone get scared the film will cut out and instead be replaced with a film of you? this really stressed me out because when i was at college and they used the interactive white board i was so worried that it would show me walking around my house. in the end i decided to go to the toilet everytime they used it.
sticks and stones may break your bones but words can tear your heart out.