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Old 08-04-2013, 07:48 PM   #21
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What's with the she's a mother thing? 50% of the population have the potential to be, it's nothing special.
She has left children who will miss her.

You wouldn't find it nice if your mother tried to lead a country, upset certain groups of the country by not always doing very sensible things and people posted saying they were going to open the bubbly because she has died.

My point was she is a person. Not a faceless politician you can hate on because she did things you disagree with. Celebrating her death is just a bad reflection on you, not what you think should be deemed disgusting.




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Old 08-04-2013, 07:50 PM   #22
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Yeah children who'll miss her, a racist and someone who tried to stage a coup. Not sure they deserve my respect either.





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Old 08-04-2013, 07:51 PM   #23
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Doesn't mean that the children won't miss her

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Old 08-04-2013, 07:51 PM   #24
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It both disgusts and worries me that we live in a society where people are planning street parties and celebrating her death.People are saying they are going to go and spit on her grave. I dont have any love for her or her policies/actions in power but it is disgusting that people are gleeful that she is dead.

Whatever is said about her not being a person, she was. She was a wife, a mother, a human being, one who spent years fighting dementia and becoming more secluded as time went on. She doesnt deserve to be called an 'old slag who stinks of piss' (read that on my facebook) or anything else.

From a personal standpoint my nan is also 87 and had a stroke 2 weeks ago, thankfully hadnt died but I can put myself in the shoes of her family and I cant imagine how horrible it is for them to know that there are going to be parties and people celebrating her death.Vile.




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Old 08-04-2013, 07:51 PM   #25
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I'm sure the mining communities found it horrid too when they couldn't feed there kids or they were getting beat up by police for being in a union.
She didn't make those decisions alone.

Where are your 'drinks for the death of the cabinet who advised her? You're targeting her because she's the face of that time period and deeming her evil because the Party didn't always make the right choices.

Everyone, every politician has made wrong choices. Doens't mean it's okay to celebrate their death. They were still people.




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Old 08-04-2013, 07:51 PM   #26
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Although I hate* her, and I hate what she did, I still don't think that's a reason to celebrate someone's life being over


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Old 08-04-2013, 07:52 PM   #27
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Yeah children who'll miss her, a racist and someone who tried to stage a coup. Not sure they deserve my respect either.
Are you kidding?

Jesus christ I worry about this world.




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Old 08-04-2013, 07:54 PM   #28
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Are you kidding?

Jesus christ I worry about this world.
No I'm not.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7868401.stm
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/4169557.stm
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Old 08-04-2013, 07:55 PM   #29
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I'm not sad that Thatcher is dead, but neither am I gleeful. The notion that a leader determines the fate of a nation is utter bullshit. Thatcherism was the product of a huge number of people, as are all political movements. She was awful, but so were the rest of her cabinet. What she did was not possible without the collaboration of millions.




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Can understand disliking her. Can't understand stating such horrible thoughts about a human being out loud or partying over it. It is unfortunate that we live in a world that is so full of hate that we cannot even hold our tongues and be respectful towards the deceased. Sometimes some things are better kept to ourselves when a person is gone. She wasn't PM anymore when she died... she was an 87 year old woman, mother, grandmother. Let her go peacefully.

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There is no one who does not deserve some respect in death.
I completely agree with this. Whatever someone has done, when they are dead, they are dead. They deserve forgiveness and peace. Even Bin Laden had a dignified funeral; why shouldn't this lady? But I do find it ironic that the people and media who vilified her for three decades are so saddened by her death.

I'm not sad she's died, and I'm not happy either. She was an important woman, and though I wouldn't say she was a good person, she certainly wasn't an evil woman.



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I'm not saying she did good things - she did some good things, and some bad things.

But that is NO reason to a) be glad a person is dead, or b) disrespect her family for missing her.

My dad was an arse (for reasons not suitable for her). If he died I'd miss him, and you'd say I didn't deserve respect for missing him? That just reflects badly on you.
No, you would deserve respect. But try to take over a small country by force and you wouldn't.





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It both disgusts and worries me that we live in a society where people are planning street parties and celebrating her death.People are saying they are going to go and spit on her grave. I dont have any love for her or her policies/actions in power but it is disgusting that people are gleeful that she is dead.

Whatever is said about her not being a person, she was. She was a wife, a mother, a human being, one who spent years fighting dementia and becoming more secluded as time went on. She doesnt deserve to be called an 'old slag who stinks of piss' (read that on my facebook) or anything else.

From a personal standpoint my nan is also 87 and had a stroke 2 weeks ago, thankfully hadnt died but I can put myself in the shoes of her family and I cant imagine how horrible it is for them to know that there are going to be parties and people celebrating her death.Vile.
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Can understand disliking her. Can't understand stating such horrible thoughts about a human being out loud or partying over it. It is unfortunate that we live in a world that is so full of hate that we cannot even hold our tongues and be respectful towards the deceased. Sometimes some things are better kept to ourselves when a person is gone.
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But try to take over a small country by force and you wouldn't.
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I agree, I didn't like her, although she was just a little bit before my time.
Unfortunately most of the young people who hate her (and its hate) got the information about her from her enemies in media, education etc. and actually know little about what she did but have slogans, anecdotes etc. I went through same thing in US with Reagan. Thatcher caused government revenues to triple. Only people who dont work can be happy with a 83% tax rate. Even God only asked for 10%.


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Some of these comments are disgusting.

I agree with Jodie:

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I find that rather disgusting.
There is no one who does not deserve some respect in death.

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It both disgusts and worries me that we live in a society where people are planning street parties and celebrating her death.People are saying they are going to go and spit on her grave. I dont have any love for her or her policies/actions in power but it is disgusting that people are gleeful that she is dead.

Whatever is said about her not being a person, she was. She was a wife, a mother, a human being, one who spent years fighting dementia and becoming more secluded as time went on. She doesnt deserve to be called an 'old slag who stinks of piss' (read that on my facebook) or anything else.

From a personal standpoint my nan is also 87 and had a stroke 2 weeks ago, thankfully hadnt died but I can put myself in the shoes of her family and I cant imagine how horrible it is for them to know that there are going to be parties and people celebrating her death.Vile.
This. But, specifically the last part. My Grandmother's a similar age and suffering from Alzheimer's.

I understand she's made wrong decisions like most politicians but I can't understand how people can celebrate her death.



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Really did not like her or what she did, Sorry I am not sorry she has gone. We are having a little drink here tonight.

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