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Old 18-03-2013, 04:16 PM   #101
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I don't think it is completely foolproof and I do agree with some restrictions, moving forward I think restrictions based on participation in increase risk behaviours rather than a blanket ban on a group of society - for example number of sexual partners in a time frame or unprotective sex. How that would work in practice with regards to people's honesty is another matter. I just think it is a bit daft that a straight man/woman that has unprotective sex with as many partners as they like can donate whereas a man in a long term committed relationship with a single partner cannot. A balance needs to be found somewhere I just don't feel that the current criteria has it quite right, but that is just my opinion
Yeah, I agree with you, and I didn't know that heterosexual people were allowed to donate blood if they've had ALL the unprotected sex- that is quite illogical!

I'm not saying that the current criteria are right, just that labels such as 'disgusting' don't need to be attached to regulations that are in place for patient safety.



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Old 18-03-2013, 04:48 PM   #102
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In regards to statistics, some studies have shown that as many as 1 in 12 gay men in London are HIV+ compared to 1 in 20 gay men in the rest of the UK, or 1 in 330 people in general in the UK. [more statistics].

Particularly in the early stages the tests can be a false negative, which is why HIV tests are repeated at intervals after known exposure. That said, the risks of getting HIV from donated blood are essentially zero (I don't think there's been a known case of it happening).

In regards to blanket-banning all unprotected sex, I believe the rates are much lower for ladies (including homosexual ladies) and hetrosexual men. Quoting that; "To date, there are no confirmed cases of female-to-female sexual transmission of HIV in the United States".



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Old 18-03-2013, 04:53 PM   #103
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That said, the risks of getting HIV from donated blood are essentially zero (I don't think there's been a known case of it happening).
Is that because testing and restrictions are so stringent though? As opposed to it being because transfusions in general don't carry a risk of HIV transmission?



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Old 18-03-2013, 04:58 PM   #104
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I think the risks of catching something through blood transmission is low, and often hyped up. IV drug use and sex are the big risk factors. Over 90% of HIV positive ladies are HIV positive from IV drug use. Just look at the BSE/vCJD scare; there have only been 4 known cases of vCJD from transfusions in the US.

(Speaking of vCJD, I can only find one case of a death from vCJD linked directly to a blood transfusion, but a lot more people have vCJD from other sources, hence why there are restrictions).



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Old 19-03-2013, 04:01 PM   #105
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Actually straight women are also quite a big risk group but no one is stopping them.

As I said, if gay men can prove they do not have HIV I see no reason for them to be blanket banned from donating.



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Old 20-03-2013, 06:29 AM   #106
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Actually straight women are also quite a big risk group but no one is stopping them.

As I said, if gay men can prove they do not have HIV I see no reason for them to be blanket banned from donating.
How does one 'prove' that one doesn't have HIV?



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^ Exactly, the issue is that antibodies from HIV infection take 3 months to show up in a blood test, so even if you have tested negative you may still be infected. And since gay men are in a high risk group, the risks outweigh the benefits of them donating.



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Old 20-03-2013, 09:34 AM   #108
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^ Exactly, the issue is that antibodies from HIV infection take 3 months to show up in a blood test, so even if you have tested negative you may still be infected. And since gay men are in a high risk group, the risks outweigh the benefits of them donating.
This. Also, at least here, HIV tests are not done as routine when doing an STI/D test. You have to specifically ask for one, and even then you have to go back again as already said.

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