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Old 30-01-2012, 02:29 AM   #1
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Assisted euthenasia?

So, my mum was watching a film about a murderer, and I was feeling pretty low, and then it hit me-If you murder someone who is about to commit suicide, is it murder, or assisted euthenasia? O.o



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Old 30-01-2012, 02:49 AM   #2
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I think it's News and Debate, not GC




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Old 30-01-2012, 02:51 AM   #3
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In the UK it counts as murder.

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Old 30-01-2012, 02:52 AM   #4
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:( I don't like news and debate, it's too serious!
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:O Name twin, you out ninja-d me. Yeah it does legally speaking but morally speaking? Idk.



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Old 30-01-2012, 02:55 AM   #5
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If you MURDER someone when they're about to commit suicide then it's still MURDER :-P



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Old 30-01-2012, 02:56 AM   #6
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If you MURDER someone when they're about to commit suicide then it's still MURDER :-P
Shh stalkee. You know what I mean!
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Old 30-01-2012, 02:58 AM   #7
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Old 30-01-2012, 03:00 AM   #8
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Well like kill someone, it's murder on your part but I mean technically? I'm confusing myself now -.-



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Old 30-01-2012, 03:10 AM   #9
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Assisted suicide is still murder so it's a moot point




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Old 30-01-2012, 03:12 AM   #10
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T'is murder




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Old 30-01-2012, 08:43 PM   #11
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Definitely murder if it's not consented i.e assisted suicide. Suicide is doing things on your own terms, and even if you were suicidal being killed by someone else would be terrifying and horrific. Assisted suicide is more complicated, though. I don't personally believe it's murder, but then it's hard to prove willful and unmanipulated consent.






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Old 30-01-2012, 08:47 PM   #12
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I see what everyone's getting at when they say murder's still murder, but I think it would really depend on the circumstances. I think if someone was about to commit suicide, and you decided to go up to them and speed things up for them, that would be murder, but I think that if that person had explicitly asked you to help, it would be euthanasia. So it would depend on their expressed wishes.

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Old 31-01-2012, 12:19 AM   #13
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I agree that it depends upon the person's wishes. If they hadn't asked you to, it's still murder because they might have changed their mind and not killed themself. But I don't agree that euthanasia is murder, I don't know if I could personally do it, but I do have sympathy with those who do. If someone really wanted me to, someone I really loved, I guess my own doubts about hurting them would come after their wishes, so maybe I would. Idk. Anyway, getting off track.

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Old 31-01-2012, 01:11 AM   #14
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Yeah it does legally speaking but morally speaking? Idk.
'Morally speaking' depends completely on the individual.
Everyone has their own morals dependant on the environment they've been brought up in and different ideas of what is right and what is wrong. (it is true that our morals may be reasonably similar but we cannot calculate to what extent that is because of similar experiences in life)
Morals don't necessarily tally with laws.

Morals are complex. (and I don't claim to be an expert ;P )

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