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Old 01-02-2008, 07:08 PM   #21
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I call it am-dram.. and im most definately not middle class.
am poor working class i think.

My dad is in an Am-dram society and is a jobless alcoholic, who lives in a council house paid for by benifits.

this isnt really relevant.. other than i guess you call it different things depending on where youre from, the friends you have etc etc.

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Old 01-02-2008, 08:01 PM   #22
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This sounds like silly guy stuff (SGS) - meant to be teasey/provocative for conversation/attention sake. I used to work the door at an Irish Pub and used to hear buckets of such slop regularly. After a few months of it I could not even take people seriously with 84% of whatever they said. When surveying a full room, I imagined comic balloons over people's heads and filled with "yada yada yada yada" like Charlie Browns rents. Keep in mind its a growing middle class that helped distinguish society from the dark ages. No society gets far on aristocrats and paupers.

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Old 01-02-2008, 11:34 PM   #23
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People used to think I was posh because i was taught how to speak properly, certainly wasnt allowed to swear and still got told off for using slang words. Thats all changed now though.



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Old 02-02-2008, 12:18 AM   #24
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I think Am-Dram is more used if you or someone you know is in the business, like if you or someone you know does amatuer dramatics then theyre more than likely to know.use the phrase.
I was going to say this.

Personally i've never said it but i think thats more to do with the fact that i've never been or known anyone involved with amatuer dramatics than the fact that i'm live on a council estate and my parents both have poor health and are unable to work so get benefits.

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Old 02-02-2008, 01:09 AM   #25
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I was thinking about this earlier on the train (random, yes..) & I came up with pretty much what Olivia (?) - griddlebone - said too.

If you're involved in amateur dramatics or know someone who is, you're more likely to call it 'am-dram'.

But I dunno, I suppose I see the whole amateur dramatics thing as middle class. & I know that that's probably far from the case, but it's just something I've assumed.

Therefore it sounds posh to me, whether you say 'am-dram' or 'amateur dramatics'.

Just my opinion though ;)
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Old 04-02-2008, 03:02 AM   #26
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People used to think I was posh because i was taught how to speak properly, certainly wasnt allowed to swear and still got told off for using slang words. Thats all changed now though.
I was exactally the same for a very long time. My mum is a teacher so I was brought up speaking correctly.

Then I moved and it all went out the window.

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I'm a cockney bastard.


Yea, i'm middle class...



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Old 04-02-2008, 03:24 AM   #28
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I'd never heard that expression before, I read the title of the thread and thought it was another way of saying "Hum-drum" meaning like, boring, haha.
Shows you how middle class I am.. as in.. not very at all.

'mon the working class losers :P
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Old 04-02-2008, 03:52 AM   #29
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yes.
i was going to say the same thing.
i don't think being middle class is such a terrible thing (or a terrible thing at all). just be thankful you're not working class, ha.
wjats wrong with working class?
I'm working class.
My parents are.
Still don't know how/why I'm at uni.
Pah.

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Old 04-02-2008, 10:03 AM   #30
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i dont know the difference between working class and middle class. do middle class people not work?

i genuinely dont know the difference.




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Old 04-02-2008, 01:54 PM   #31
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There are so many ways to define it. It's still debated by different professional-type people.. So we have no chance of giving a solid definition! =P



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Old 04-02-2008, 04:51 PM   #32
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Nowadays class seems such an arbitrary distinction. For example some people would see lottery winners as still being working class even though they have millions.
I used to do "Am-Dram" when I was younger, wouldn't consider it posh at all, but if he was a member of an operatic society... :-P .
This whole class thing bugs me, I've had people be awful to me at uni because I didn't go to a private school, calling me common. I'd just tell that guy to grow up to be honest.





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Old 05-02-2008, 02:08 PM   #33
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My friend's parents used to go on about how they were really 'working class' and like look down on my for having a 'middle class' family (which in fact my parents have WORKED for, in the sense that neither of my parents grew up with much money and when I was younger they couldn't even afford basic stuff for me) yet they were a pair of university lecturers both with PhDs that built their own house. Hypercritical much?






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Old 05-02-2008, 03:48 PM   #34
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i dont know the difference between working class and middle class. do middle class people not work?

i genuinely dont know the difference.
As a very, very, general idea - the typical stereotype is that working class tends to be inner-city, blue-collar workers, who don't really have that much money, don't tend to borrow much (because of the instability of paying it back), with children who go straight into work aged 16 or 18.
The middle-class stereotype is that they tend to have white-collar city-jobs, live in the suburbs, have one or two children who go to a grammar or private school, children will go to university, and will have music lessons, ballet or rugby, go on trips to the theatre or to art galleries.

Think The Times vs. The Sun, Waitrose vs. Asda, Villa in some quiet town in the south of Spain vs. package deal holiday to Tenerife, Polo vs. football - just for some general stereotypes.

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Old 05-02-2008, 04:43 PM   #35
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wjats wrong with working class?
I'm working class.
My parents are.
Still don't know how/why I'm at uni.
Pah.

Cheers Linda
i'm working class too. so it's coooool.
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Old 05-02-2008, 04:49 PM   #36
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i could go off on a sociological rant about how saying "the middle class" is perhaps less useful nowadays & how maybe we should talk about "the middle classES" but i just can't be bothered.

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Old 05-02-2008, 04:51 PM   #37
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im not working class or middle class then. im working/middle class.

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Old 05-02-2008, 04:54 PM   #38
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Thing is, they're very much outdated stereotypes - there are so many variations now, and although there is still some sort of vague class system, it's not nearly as prominent as it used to be.
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i could go off on a sociological rant about how saying "the middle class" is perhaps less useful nowadays & how maybe we should talk about "the middle classES" but i just can't be bothered.

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Old 05-02-2008, 05:11 PM   #40
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