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Old 28-11-2019, 06:02 PM   #1501
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You do have to have the ultimate responsibility for your own actions though, people can't really protect you from yourself. I hope the Pregabalin is useful for you.





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Old 28-11-2019, 07:00 PM   #1502
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So what's the point of being sectioned in hospital. I don't get it. Thanks me too.

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Old 28-11-2019, 07:03 PM   #1503
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Do you want to be responsible for yourself and your actions, and able to have autonomy to make your own decisions and choices?
The point of being sectioned is for them to help work with you to keep safe while you do the mental work necessary to get to a place that you can make decisions for yourself and be responsible. It's on you to engage with them and make choices that move you forward. Hospitals aren't holding cells. They're treatment facilities. You have to make the choice to engage with the support offered, even if it isn't the type of support you feel is best.

You can make the choice to work with what you're being offered and make the most of it, even if it's not perfect. Or you can choose to fight them and not engage.

That said if you're still confused why you're on a section, I'm sure you can ask hospital staff to go over it with you and explain the reasoning and your care plan.


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Old 28-11-2019, 07:05 PM   #1504
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So for example from your review, you can say, "they want me to take responsiblity and i think they were being harsh and i don't trust them"

or you can say something like,

"they want me to take responsibility and i think they were being harsh BUT i am going to try to trust them and work with them anyways"



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Old 28-11-2019, 07:44 PM   #1505
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I AM working with them. So once again stop judging me.

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Old 28-11-2019, 10:06 PM   #1506
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Joanna, I'm really confused why you think there was any judgement in my response.

You asked for an explanation of what the point of a section was. I explained.

As far as I'm aware and what I've read, a section 3 is a treatment section. That means you are in hospital and being offered treatment in the form of both sessions with a psychologist, and medication. You can either make a choice to engage in this treatment, or you can make a choice to not engage. Nowhere in what I wrote did I say that you were not trying or not working with them.

I think you've definitely made some choices to work with them and that's fantastic (for example talking with the psychologist)! There's also times where you've made choices to go against what was being offered (for example running away on leave and harming yourself). That's not inherently bad or wrong, it just is what it is. Engaging with treatment isn't just a one time black or white choice you make or don't make. It's an ongoing decision that you have to continuously make.

Again, there is absolutely no judgement implied in any of my responses. I understand that you are taking it that way for some reason, but I'd really encourage you to read through and take things at face value.

Also, if you're still confused about your section or how it is supposed to work, staff are going to be the ones to best help explain it, as they can also explain more specifically as it applies to your situation.



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Old 28-11-2019, 10:13 PM   #1507
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Also, I notice you didn't answer this question yet:

Do you want to be responsible for yourself and your actions, and able to have autonomy to make your own decisions and choices?



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Old 28-11-2019, 11:08 PM   #1508
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Can you just leave me alone. Please.

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Old 29-11-2019, 05:33 PM   #1509
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What "being responsible" means is quite dependent on your situation.
If you were generally quite well in the community that might mean making a gp appointment when you notice things start to slide.
If you were less well in the community that might mean reaching out to crisis support when needed.
In a hospital setting that might be speaking to a member of staff when needed.

It is easy (I know I've done it!) to take offense when someone suggests you need to take responsibility, we jump to the top scenario and how we could cope when generally doing OK but its actual meaning and intent could be wildly different.

Would it be helpful to find out what they actually meant by "take responsibility" even if it something that isn't manageable right now it might be something they could help you work towards.



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Old 29-11-2019, 10:15 PM   #1510
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They just told me I needed to speak to staff and be honest and I tried to say why would I do that if I had plans to end my life

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Old 30-11-2019, 01:39 PM   #1511
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If you want them to do what they can to 'protect' you then they have to know if you are in danger.

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Old 30-11-2019, 05:06 PM   #1512
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They knew I was in danger.

Feeling pretty bad. Been out with my mentor from church and she wanted to know what I did and I told her and she kept saying how selfish it is

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Old 30-11-2019, 05:55 PM   #1513
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That must have hurt to hear that, it's difficult for some people to understand the pain behind feeling suicidal. That is just her opinion though and it doesn't take away your reality. Is there anyone you can talk to tonight or do would distractions be better?





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Old 30-11-2019, 09:32 PM   #1514
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It was really hard to hear that. She kept saying how it's a selfish act. I've been trying to distract myself but it's hard.

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Old 01-12-2019, 05:56 PM   #1515
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How has your day been? Have you started the Pregabalin?





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Old 01-12-2019, 08:38 PM   #1516
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I slept most of the day. Then did some colouring with my friend. I've taken the Pregabalin for 2 nights now. I guess it's early days.

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Old 02-12-2019, 11:53 AM   #1517
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I've lost my leave I'm so annoyed just because I refused to speak to the psychologist apparently that means I'm not engaging with my treatment plan so they can't risk assess me properly what a load of crap argh

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Old 02-12-2019, 12:00 PM   #1518
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Why didn't you speak to the psychologist, I thought you were disappointed that she had no extra time for you? I don't think it's a load of crap that you couldn't be properly assessed if you're not engaging with people. What do you think would be useful and something that you're willing to work with?





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Old 02-12-2019, 12:33 PM   #1519
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Old 02-12-2019, 12:45 PM   #1520
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