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Old 01-10-2009, 12:50 AM   #1
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did you know...

that an american billion is different to an english billion, so next time someone says they'll give you a billion pounds, make sure you know which billion they are refering to.

a gov dept told mock the week researchers that if it was refering to £s then it was of course an english billion, when questioned further (so is that a 1000 million or a million million?) and they went to check they came back with the answer... erm it's an american billion.

why do americans have different numbers to us??

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Old 01-10-2009, 01:04 AM   #2
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This confused me very muchly when I was watching Mock The Week.

I still can't get my three working brain cells around it.




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Old 01-10-2009, 10:14 AM   #3
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I know the dollar is worth less than the pound, so to say a billion dollars would only be (half?) a billion pounds, exchange rates permitting...is that what you were getting at? Lol confused

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Old 01-10-2009, 01:34 PM   #4
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It's all part of history.

So one day, the British people were all drinking their tea and playing croquet and whatnot.


An average Londoner going about his tea drinking business.

Anyway, then some people went off in a big boat and discovered America!


America, home of the free

So everyone was happy until some guys got bored. They threw down their croquet hammers and said "I will not stand for this!


The indignance!

Then there was this big civil war between the settlers and the guys who got bored.


Fisticuffs!

Then the guys who were bored before won, and they wanted to reject everything of their past lives, so they were like "Lol we r not taking ur number system we r making our ownz"

And thus, the difference between the American and European billion came about.



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Old 01-10-2009, 02:07 PM   #5
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I know the dollar is worth less than the pound, so to say a billion dollars would only be (half?) a billion pounds, exchange rates permitting...is that what you were getting at? Lol confused
No. They just do it differently to us, like, a billion is a million million, in America a thousand million is a billion.

I think.

Something like that,nothing to do with exchange rates.




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Old 01-10-2009, 02:20 PM   #6
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million = 1,000,000 (6)
million million = 1,000,000,000,000 (12) *British*
thousand million = 1,000,000,000 (9) *American*


However A Billion has officially been a thousand Million since about the 70's in both countries.

*added* found the year, it was 1974. Nowadays a Thousand Million is called a Billion and a million Million is often refered to as a long Billion



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Old 01-10-2009, 03:07 PM   #7
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A trillion is a million million.
so: 1,000,000,000,000 (12)
basically we work in short scale along with America and most countries in the world, the long system is used by a couple of countries in central Europe.
urm, yea I too lazy to think of how to describe short and long, will let Wiki do it for me:

Short scale refers to a system of large number names in which every new term greater than million is 1,000 times the previous term: billion means a thousand millions (109), trillion means a thousand billions (1012), and so on.
Long scale refers to a system of names in which every new term greater than million is 1,000,000 times the previous term: billion (from bi and million) means a million to the power of two or a million millions (1012), trillion (from tri and million) means a million to the power of three or a million billions (1018), and so on.



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Old 01-10-2009, 03:37 PM   #8
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Ouch. *Rubs head*.

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Old 01-10-2009, 03:43 PM   #9
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Yeah, no, I avoid big numbers like that.
I have no use for them, and the number of zeros just confuses me a bit. I still have to think 'one two three four five six' when I'm working out the zeros on a million.
Confusing stuff.

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Yes..... Errrrr?!



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I'm pretty sure I'll never see that much money in my life, so I'm not gonna worry about it!





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Old 01-10-2009, 07:41 PM   #12
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Yeah, no, I avoid big numbers like that.
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To be honest, if somebody offered me a billion, I don't think i would really care if they meant it in the english way or the american, I would be happy with cash!
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Anyway, then some people went off in a big boat and discovered America!


America, home of the free
did anyone else notice this isn't America? lol

I thought a billion was a billion no matter where it was. Except exchange rates would obviously mean the amount would be different in pounds compared to dollars. But the "billion" part was the same number of zero's?

I'm pretty sure it only matters in politics anyway



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Old 01-10-2009, 09:09 PM   #15
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Yeah, why've we got Italy up there?

Numbers eh? Who'd have 'em?!

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Old 01-10-2009, 09:38 PM   #16
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did anyone else notice this isn't America? lol
No not at all






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Old 02-10-2009, 12:15 AM   #17
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so mock the week was wrong.... oooh we should all write in and complain lol! confusing us for no good reason!
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