For the Vegans who think not eating meat will save the cow, here's something you should know
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I don't think that picture is terrifically accurate since some of the parts of the body are used for different things than it says in the picture. Also, you can get vegetarian/vegan versions of a lot of the things mentioned. Don't knock a vegan for trying, as long as they're pro-active/healthy about it.
It really annoys me how often people get at vegetarians/vegans. It's a free country, people can make whatever decisions they like. You don't hear other dietary choices getting all the stick...
/is being over-sensitive because people keep going on about it and it pisses me off.
It really annoys me how often people get at vegetarians/vegans. It's a free country, people can make whatever decisions they like. You don't hear other dietary choices getting all the stick...
This.
I am vegetarian and my best friend is vegan. We are fine and we don't need criticism. My mum used to make fun of me (when we talked) being vegetarian; I think it's really immature.
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I can't think of any legitimate arguments for being vegan. Vegetarianism I have no beef with as long as it's not forced upon kids by vegetarian parents. It's incredibly unhealthy for kids and both selfish and ignorant on the part of the parents. no offence...
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I don't think that picture is terrifically accurate since some of the parts of the body are used for different things than it says in the picture. Also, you can get vegetarian/vegan versions of a lot of the things mentioned. Don't knock a vegan for trying, as long as they're pro-active/healthy about it.
It really annoys me how often people get at vegetarians/vegans. It's a free country, people can make whatever decisions they like. You don't hear other dietary choices getting all the stick...
/is being over-sensitive because people keep going on about it and it pisses me off.
This,
But I also thought 'BOOM IN YOUR FACE' about the picture LOLOL.
It really annoys me how often people get at vegetarians/vegans. It's a free country, people can make whatever decisions they like. You don't hear other dietary choices getting all the stick...
What if someone can't eat ALL the meat due to food intolerences? are we all going to tell them off for not using the whole cow then?
What about people who can't eat certain vegetables/fruits and have to eat meat to actually EAT food.
Does it make me a bad person for being able to have everything but the milk from a cow as I am intolerent to it?
On a more serious note... why is this thread here?
I dont think thats what hes saying....I think its more about the 'if youre not eating meat because you dont want all the cow slaughter then think about what other products are made from it.' Nothing to do with intolerence to food.
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Vegan maybe not great for kids but my vegan friend is 28 and he is seriously healthy. He hardly ever gets ill and he has never had any abnormalities in his yearly medicals at work.
I don't eat meat primarily because I don't like the idea of directly eating a dead animal. Although I know animals do eventually get killed in the process of cheese etc. I would be vegan, maybe in the future, when I don't have a carer that says "what did you eat today?" every time he visits, then he proceeds to criticise what I eat (he also said that all of my health problems are due to me being vegetarian and that it will make me weak, which is bullsh**t).
But I also have multiple digestive problems and I find certain types of meat (and the way that meat and fish is commonly cooked) makes me have problems, especially with my IBS.
It's the person's own choice what they eat.
PM me if you want a PDF copy of the ICD-10or the Mental Health Act 1983/2007. I ALSO HAVE THE DSM-V BOOK and am a pharmacology student.
I have a visual impairment / neurological problems so I need people to type in clear text and no funny fonts. Also excuse any typos, my vision blocks things out.
I have autism and have problems communicating, PMs included.
Just becasue I type well doesn't mean I speak well. I am only part time verbal.
I dont think thats what hes saying....I think its more about the 'if youre not eating meat because you dont want all the cow slaughter then think about what other products are made from it.' Nothing to do with intolerence to food.
Fair enough, but what if someone is vegan due to food intolerence?
I really hate it when people force their views down my throat. Or tell my my views are wrong. I am assuming you are the same. So, pray tell, what do you think gives you the right to do so now?
I'm not vegan. I am vegiterian. The number of times I have had to 'defend' my choice to not eat meat to people, when:
1. it doesnt affect them in the slightest
2. they are ill informed about it
3. I have never told them 'meat is murder!' or anything similar
4. I am pretty sure they are doing it to make themselves feel superior for being a meat eater.
I have no problem with people asking questions, as I am sure vegans don't. But this is not what you are doing. I do not understand why people think it is their god given right to critisize people for their food choices. I mean, people do the same with me when it comes to chosing not to drink. So it's not restricted to vegiterian/veganism. To people generally just take the piss out of what they don't understand?
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Fair enough, but what if someone is vegan due to food intolerence?
Again....I dont think his post has anything to do with people who cant eat meat for a medical reason. In his first post he says For the Vegans who think not eating meat will save the cow, here's something you should know so Im pretty sure hes only referring to vegans who choose to be because they think it will save the cows.
There are times to stay put, and what you want will come to you.
But there are times to go out into the world and find such a thing for yourself.
I aint no abacus but you can count on me.
I dont know if my posts came across as thinking vegans are wrong.....it wasnt meant to. I literally couldnt care less what people eat!x
There are times to stay put, and what you want will come to you.
But there are times to go out into the world and find such a thing for yourself.
I aint no abacus but you can count on me.
As others have said, there are alternative vegan products. My friend was vegan and was aware of all of those things in the picture, and simply didn't use them. Therefore, true vegan. In other words, slogan under picture invalid.
I also sense, and may be wrong, that the OP is trying to make people who are vegetarian/vegan feel bad about their choices, which I find annoying. I am not vegetarian or vegan.
I'd just like to take the opportunity to agree with a lot of other people, that being vegan or vegetarian is a lifestyle choice, that just like religion, or other ethical stances, should not be knocked or picked at for being a healthy and well informed decision made by the person involved. I am a vegetarian and have been ruthlessly and mercilessly (no word of exaggeration there) picked on for years, because people simply do not understand that this is my choice, no different it is to theirs for deciding to eat meat, or to consume dairy products. I can see the point the OP is making that meat is not the only product that comes from an animal, however as many others have already pointed out, there are a growing number of vegan alternatives to many of the things mentioned.
I don't mean to come across aggressively in any way, but after having been in many a situation where I've had to explain myself to stop the 'banter' that people assume I should find funny, I'm merely sticking up for myself and for others that have been in this situation before. Ergh.
/Rant over.
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I can't think of any legitimate arguments for being vegan. Vegetarianism I have no beef with as long as it's not forced upon kids by vegetarian parents. It's incredibly unhealthy for kids and both selfish and ignorant on the part of the parents. no offence...
Also, I can think of plenty of legitimate arguments for veganism with regards to the ethics and mass production of the whole thing. But I won't go into it for fear of being the cause of World War 3.
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